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Dave Steltz 08-16-2009 10:55 AM

Hipsters Brake
 
I'm thinking that my solenoid (PG) is acting up...as everyonce in a while I get a really funky reaction time..like really bad like .100, after a normal day with teen's...

I dont see them for sale anywhere (on Hipsters website or Jegs)...is any of the other mfg'rs soleniod the same as a replacement ? Or do I have to contact them directly and get one from them...

Bryan Gillespie 08-16-2009 05:47 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
http://www.summitracing.com/search/P...ake-Solenoids/

ray sowers 08-16-2009 10:55 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz (Post 135061)
I'm thinking that my solenoid (PG) is acting up...as everyonce in a while I get a really funky reaction time..like really bad like .100, after a normal day with teen's...

I dont see them for sale anywhere (on Hipsters website or Jegs)...is any of the other mfg'rs soleniod the same as a replacement ? Or do I have to contact them directly and get one from them...

You can either buy them from Jegs. or Summit, Jegs has free shipping, or from Steve Grady, Grove city Ohio. Ray Sowers

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 06:32 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Gillespie (Post 135123)

I dont see one that says Hipster...all are other brands...I'm skeered to buy one that doesnt say it fits a Hipster valve body...

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 06:35 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ray sowers (Post 135165)
You can either buy them from Jegs. or Summit, Jegs has free shipping, or from Steve Grady, Grove city Ohio. Ray Sowers

Ray, same answer as above..I dont see one that says it will work with a Hipster brake...should I assume that any solenoid will work with any brake ?

Rich Biebel 08-17-2009 09:03 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Solinoid just de-energizes so how would one cause your RT's to be slow? A sticking valve maybe but the solinoid doesn't have much to do with release time.....

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 09:38 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 135214)
Solinoid just de-energizes so how would one cause your RT's to be slow? A sticking valve maybe but the solinoid doesn't have much to do with release time.....

Rich, I am having some issues with a weird r/t (like a .100 or something)comes up every once in a while and mostly when the car/trans is a little warmer/later rounds......everything has been gone thru several times...the soleniod is about 5 years old and I'm thinking its time to replace it to rule out one more thing, or fix it...

I'm open to any other suggestions ....

63corvette 08-17-2009 10:28 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Dave, is it a aluminum valve body?
If so read the other transbrake thread.
This issue is why I do not use the alum brake on any trans I build for myself or a customer.
Hope this helps.
Rick

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 10:50 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Rick, nope , steel valvebody...

Rich Biebel 08-17-2009 12:05 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....:p:eek:

GaryGoFast 08-17-2009 01:48 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 135252)
Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....:p:eek:

Maybe he's just a little long in the tooth.

63corvette 08-17-2009 03:34 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Dave, I do not have a good answer for you on this one.
Usually if a solenoid goes bad the brake will not hold or holds intermittenly.
Heat is a killer of a lot of things on a trans.
I always suggest running as big a trans cooler as possible and a deep pan if possible. That helps with the temp issues.
That is about all I can come up with at this time.
Hope this helps.
Rick

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 04:11 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Biebel (Post 135252)
Dave, like I said the solinoid only energizes to apply the brake. Once power is removed from the solinoid it de-energizes and the pressure in the trans. drives the valve and the solinoid back. There is no spring in there like the old ones. If the solinoid is free to move without any binding there is nothing it can do to slow up your RT's. Maybe you blinked or your getting feeble.....:p:eek:

Yea yea...and believe me that certainly happens from time to time, but these come when I am really focused so I'm not ready to believe thats it me (yet)..

Some one else posted a reply about "getting long in the tooth" ...I think he used to race but I cant really remember when, so I'm not gonna comment on that one....

Bryan Gillespie 08-17-2009 04:47 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Some one else posted a reply about "getting long in the tooth" ...I think he used to race but I cant really remember when, so I'm not gonna comment on that one....
I think I remember that guy, I also think he was div. 1 champ , but it's been so long since I seen him at the track he may have retired. He looked preetty old to me.

850Racer 08-17-2009 05:34 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
No one has seen him at the 8.50 races either...hmmmm...maybe he IS retired....

G E T Racin 08-17-2009 05:40 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Dave,
Kruggie had an inconsistancy problem a couple months ago. Put a new solenoid in --- problem solved.

Dave Steltz 08-17-2009 05:45 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Gary, Grant told me the same thing about his car saturday night...thats why I decided to change it out...better safe that sorry...

You missed some fun sat night too bad you had to work...

ray sowers 08-17-2009 10:50 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Steltz (Post 135183)
Ray, same answer as above..I dont see one that says it will work with a Hipster brake...should I assume that any solenoid will work with any brake ?

Yes, sorta. All standard stroke length solenoids will work on the Hipster valve body however there are a few specials out there with different strokes. They all screw into the transmission case, 11 threads per inch thread. Ray

GaryGoFast 08-18-2009 10:19 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
just a gary federico update:

semi retired, kids are taking precedent

Charlie Yannetti 08-18-2009 10:43 AM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Hey Dave.... I had a similar problem some years back.... intermittent release.... my lights were worse than yours.... went through everything and found nothing.... then one night at Island, in the semi's, I let go of the button and the car sat for like 15 seconds.... went home, got a new button, problem solved.... check it out if you haven't already.....

Dave Steltz 08-18-2009 01:19 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Charlie Yannetti (Post 135483)
Hey Dave.... I had a similar problem some years back.... intermittent release.... my lights were worse than yours.... went through everything and found nothing.... then one night at Island, in the semi's, I let go of the button and the car sat for like 15 seconds.... went home, got a new button, problem solved.... check it out if you haven't already.....

Ya know I like the way you're thinking...us SG guys have to stick together...we're arent older, we're better...

I just ordered a whole new button from Biondo's...figured its another thing thats too cheap to not replace..

WCW 08-18-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Hipsters Brake
 
by chance do you have a msd 7al3. seen one feed power back to the delay box in late rounds.
cw


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