Rules for nhra super street
 

My question is, how well are the rules for this class policed. I have a pro stock truck copy that has a 125 inch wheelbase that I would like to run in super street, but, the rules state the wheelbase cannot exceed 120 inches.. It also a bit tough to get the 2800 lb min weight for this class. I would like to run super gas where none of this would be an issue, However,I cannot get licensed due to medications I take for my heart (Blood thinners), Therefore, I must run super street. Any info will be greatly appreciated. If it matters I will be running division 6 and 7. thanks in advance for any info.
Ray

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tony hall runs a s10,i have seen alot of trucks in sst,but i dont recall too many haas or bickle pro stock trucks and the weight ha ha i think thats a joke! but i would ask him on here and get his wheelbase i am sure he could give you more info on or if he had any issues on tech with his...i am fed up with nhra stuff gonna race 1 or 2 points meets then bracket race!

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I think you would be busted on weight, before you would on wheelbase!
Here in div. 3 they do check the weight , at the div. & nat. events.

That would not be good if you made it to the money rounds , then got busted on weight.............
Mitch s/st- s/g 366P

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I'm not sure but after 135 or 150mph don't ya need a license? Or am I thinking about the chass cert.

Mitch you have a PM

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they do weigh at all races , anything over 135mph you need a chassis tag and physical and your license which is the same for super gas, have never seen them check wheelbase before

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my car is right on 2800lbs,but my chassis is certified also...my car is capable of running 150+ but i short shift so there is less wear and tear on my junk...plus the chassis cert is good to have just incase there are any structural damage that is un seen...and i had to do the physical and all that good stuff...but i have been weighed,but never checked my wheelbase good luck!!

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I've seen plenty of light cars in S/ST. I remember an old Brogie roadster in CA that ran it, he had a huge rear bumper that was rumored to be mostly filled with lead. Looks like 500 lbs is max ballast:
Per Gen Regs 4.2.

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I agree that you woudl be called on the weight long before the wheelbase. Also as stated anything over135 and you need a license. I have been weighed, but only after final rounds, however I imagine if someone said something to the officials that you could be weighed at any point. I am well over weight and go over 150, at anything over 150 you will also need a chute. When looking at licensing you have to take into consideration the MPH as well as the ET.

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Thank you for all of the responses. I have read the entire NHRA rulebook at length and do understand if I run over 135 mph that I need a license and certified cage and at 150 mph need a parachute. My questions were related to wheelbase and weight. Running under 135 mph should be easy as I have a 383 that makes 550 hp and can short shift to slow the truck down a little. I am actually anticipating to run in the neighborhood of 125 to 130 mph. Again thank you to everyone that posted a responce to my question and I hope to see you all at the track soon. I'm sure you will all love a little duck hunting as I have zero drag racing experience.

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Seems like your jumping into the deep end.

But good luck with your endeavor....

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There is always IHRA if you live close enough. At least H/R (S/ST) runs for a championship and at ALL of thier events. The wt. is a min of 2600 lbs (200 lbs less weight to carry) but I havent kept up over the years to know about the wheelbase requirement.

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Didn't Skooter Peaco just run S/St at Norwalk a couple of weeks ago. That truck is a PST look alike. Tony's is a regular cab and may not be that long.

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dont forget your diaper

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I have a regular cab truck almost like Tonys truck, My wheelbase is 109". I strongly doubt that you would get nailed on wheelbase for sure in IHRA but unlikely in NHRA either. IHRA has only a 2600 pound mininum weight (like NHRA should be!!!!). And you will get treated like a real racer that they apperciate you coming and supporting them. I can assure you that at a IHRA national event you will never be pitted 2 miles across the street. I would stick with IHRA if I where you. Just my two cents.

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If the wheel base on your truck was 125" from the factory then you have no problem. If your truck is an extended cab truck than I'm sure it did. The rules say 120" unless manufactured with a longer wheel base. Read the last sentence after where it says 120" and you will see what I am talking about.
Chuck

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Thanks for all of the great responses. First I will address IHRA racing. I live in california and the closest race is utah so.... On the wheel base I did read that sentence chuck but, an ext cab long bed chey s10 has a 123 inch wheelbase from the factory. I do know that NHRA can be tough on the sportsman guys. sometimes I feel we are treated as a nuisance but, that is a discussion for another time.

Thanls fella's :)

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135 MPH or faster (excludes motorcycles) are required to have a valid NHRA Competition License and NHRA Membership.

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Originally Posted by bigpoppa http://classracer.com/classforum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
I'm sure you will all love a little duck hunting as I have zero drag racing experience.
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Yeah, but people who race like they have nothing to lose, usually kick butt. Good luck, big.

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Was it a blue healey?? Lol

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I think the 2800 deal is crazy.. people are still running crazy mph.. They need to rethink the weight deal cause there are alot of people with older cars that cant run 632's and go 175mph in super gas, but would be cool going 10.90 at 135...

I wish they would put a mph cap on atleast s/st..

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run ihra super rod,don't have to do the physical to get liscence.

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Wasn't the original intention behind the 2,800lb. rule to shy away some of the cars capable of what was considered big MPH for the time from running s/st? If you lowered the weight but want a cap on mph, wouldn't those two work against each other? At that point you would potentially be inviting more cars capable of 150+mph into the class so what would be the mph cap? I also think that a majority of guys capable of 10.90@135 are already doing it.

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I believe a some of the racers felt that 2500 lb cars were hurting the class, and did not like the idea of a S/G car running SST. They had cars that were just over 2500 lbs. And one year they had stutter boxes, before the throttle control, cubic inch scenario started to take off. They also changed the tree from .4 to .5 seconds. I believe this was 1994 when the rules changed. Hurt some racers that had been running that class for a years. They did not high mph back then like today. High mph for a SST car in 1987 would be 130. And I don't believe that any one was going 130. Lot of races throttle controlled it on the big end.

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I was going 10.90@145 in 1997 in a 3200 lb backhalf, its all relative to what your used to.

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If Super Street is suppose to be an entry level class, then why are cars that can run Super Gas allowed to compete in Super Street? Once your car is able to run Super Gas times and mph, then that car should move up to that class and not be able to run Super Street. What is the purpose of it being an entry level class if you allow cars that can run the faster class to compete with the entry level cars? Super Street is only competed at one national event race per division. Super Gas runs at most national events and competes for national points, Street does not. It doesn't seem fair to allow these cars to run in Street. Just my two cents.

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Who said Super Street is supposed to be an entry level class?

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Super Street has always been considered an entry level class by NHRA in the past. There are no national points for the class. It has always been the class to start racing in to get your feet wet in Divisional competition. It is a class for racers to gain some experience in NHRA divisional competition. It's the class that local racers can run to start their dreams of running a national event in their division. There is only one national event in each of the 7 divisions in the country for Super Street racers to compete at. If you wanna run in the 9's at more than 135 mph then you should run in Gas. Please understand that I'm not knocking any one that runs in the class. I run in Super Street myself. I just don't believe the class is meant for cars that can run in the faster classes, but can come down and run with the slower cars. It doesn't seem right. No different then a full time touring pro racer in any other sport coming back to compete with the next step down division. Once your car is capable of running in that faster class, I don't think it's fair that you come back and compete against the cars in Super Street. Again, I'm not trying to put anyone down or pick on anyone. Hope I get my point across without losing the meaning of my opinion or hurting anyone's feelings. That's not my intentions.

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It is the way all the .90 classes are just look at Super Gas there are more 170 and 180 mile a hour cars than 140 to 160 nhra let the cat out of the bag an now that is the way it is.

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Faster cars only have an advantage if you believe that is true. The slower car has the power to control the race by being in front all the way down the track.

No offense to me personally, as my Super Street car will never be legal to run in the 9s or over 135. I could pretty easily move it over to Stock though.

If you look at the list of race winners, you will see that it isn't dominated by super high MPH cars.

If your emphasis is really on keeping it a 'beginner' class, then the restriction should not be on speed but on driver success. I.E, if you win two division championships, then you can no longer run the class.

Again, that sucks for me since my car can't 'move up.' I'd just need to be done with divisional racing.

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How could you move up to Gas if your car only runs in the tens? My car also could almost fit into stock eliminator also. In fact it is a real street driven car with license plates, registration, state inspection and street tires! Maybe they outta think about requiring street tires and mufflers in the class since it is called Super STREET? Although street cars are getting to be not real "street cars" lately. Take the new street outlaws cars. There about as streetable as Pro Mods or Dragsters. Oh that's right. One of them is now called Crow Mod. What was I thinking?

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By making the car quicker?

I'm guessing that most of the fast Super Street cars run the class because they feel they will be more competitive in that class than running with the 170 mph roadsters in Super Gas. Basically the same reason you don't want THEM in Super Street. Depending on how heavy they are, they could also struggle to cut a light on the .400 tree even though they can run well under the 9.90 index.

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Every car should obviously run under their respective index, but once the car reaches the capability of running the next faster class index, I think it should not be allowed in the slower class anymore. Otherwise, what is the purpose of having the different classes?

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Oh yeah forgot to mention this. How come they don't run a true .400 or .500 lights at the divisional races? I've been told they are .380 and .480 because there were too many pros red lighting so NHRA decided to speed up the tree. What does that have to do with the sportsman classes? The pros don't run at divisional races. It states in the rule book that they run .500 tree in s/street .400 in s/gas and s/comp. Why is this? Even at national events the sportsman should run the lights that are stated in the rule book. I have no delay box, and I can't even cut a good .500 pro tree light using a trans brake because of this situation. Everything seams to be revolving around the pros. NHRA shouldn't forget what the majority of the NHRA is made up of. SPORTSMAN RACERS! It all seams to be about the television and corporate money for them now days. I miss the grass roots feel of the NHRA back when Wally Parks was in control. Sometimes I wish the IHRA events weren't so far away and spread out. Raced at one of their national events in western NY years ago, and they were genuinely interested in you having a great time at their event. Was missing a neck collar required for their super street class during tech. I told them I didn't own one. They said, "No problem, get one at a vendor here at the event tomorrow morning." I said, "But I'll miss the first round of time trails. He said, "No problem, come back up to us and we will give you a run if you miss first round because of this issue." Imagine an NHRA official saying that to you!

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You seem to have plenty of complaints! You seem to think that since your car can run 10.90, you should have a competitive Super Street car. I'm sure you can, but you'll need to work on things such as getting your car to cut a light.

You are handicapping yourself by not having a delay box, for sure. Once you can cut a light, you'll need the adjustability to the thousandth of a second.

Bracket racing against cars of all speeds will help you judge the closing rates of the faster Super Street cars.

If it were easy, everyone would do it.