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Paul Ceasrine 08-16-2011 05:43 PM

1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Not talked about that much,,,and overshadowed by the COPO Camaro's

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...copo-427-1.jpg

1969 Chevelle COPO 427, with a 427/425HP L-72 engine code.

Not SS cars, but plain Chevelle's......Total built 323
Base Price: $3900

X-TECH MAN 08-16-2011 06:25 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 275745)
Not talked about that much,,,and overshadowed by the COPO Camaro's

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/...copo-427-1.jpg

1969 Chevelle COPO 427, with a 427/425HP L-72 engine code.

Not SS cars, but plain Chevelle's......Total built 323
Base Price: $3900

"Plain Jane" Chevelles but they had the SS hoods.

Tom keedle 08-16-2011 07:02 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
there were a few 69 2dr SEDAN ss396's too...

Paul Ceasrine 08-16-2011 07:21 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
The 1969 Chevelle COPO 427,,,,,,built for 1969 NHRA SS/D or SS/DA.
COPO 9562

http://image.superchevy.com/f/966101...front_view.jpg

Alan Roehrich 08-16-2011 09:58 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
My favorite of all the muscle cars. Probably my favorite Stock Eliminator car is Harry Vineyard's white 69 Chevelle 427, with Harry driving in B/SA, and Tucker Parrish driving in A/S. Kevin Borgstrom's 69 Chevelle is a close second.

RebelRoad 08-16-2011 10:30 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
COPO Chevelles were assigned Central Office Production Order 9562 for the L72 Hi Perf unit. Yenko Chevelles (99 built) were double COPO's because they also got COPO #9566 'sport car conversion' that included special suspension, wheels & 140 speedo

Don Yenko also bought the 69 COPO Chevelles & Camaro's (COPO 9561/9737) directly from Chev with these packages already installed, but the 69 Nova's were 396/375 4 speed cars...some of these got 427 dealer transplants. Insurance co's refused to insure the Nova's so it's unknown how many were actually converted.
In 1970 the only COPO's built were the LT-1 Yenko Deuce's nicknamed the 'insurance beaters'

FED 387 08-16-2011 10:56 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
I ordered/bought a NEW 1969 Chevelle 300 Deluxe 2 door SEDAN with a 396/375 and a Turbo trans --it came from the factory with a 4:88,HD suspension,posi ,a tinted windshield NO radio bench seat rubber floor mats dog dish hubcaps--- Marina blue with a black interior--had SS emblems on it and the SS hood no other ID stuff on it other than the front marker lights said 396 replaced them the first nite with stock 6 cylinder lights and that thing would scream pulled the engine at about 1500 miles put in a 430 ci BBC would drive it too the track put a set of M&H 10:00 XS-11 slicks on it pull the Corvair turbo mufflers off rejet the carb roll a set of plugs in nad set the timing thing would run 10.70 at about 123 then trun around put it back together and drive it home---won a lotta money with that car too---car never saw rain or snow sat in a heated garage all winter sold it in 1974 with the original engine for $7500 to buy a house--wish I had it now!!!! FED387

scott helms 08-17-2011 10:19 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
The front marker light said 396 that was a 1968 piece, speaking of 1968 does anybody remember a 1968 427 Chevelle from factory? Why not in book. not enough made?

FED 387 08-17-2011 11:20 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
biggest engine I ever saw in a 68 Chevelle was a L89 Alum Head 396/375 only ever saw ONE--- Never a 427 in ANY year Chevelle from the factory!!!! Correct on the marker lite on a Chevelle, the 396 was on my Nova--Comp

Jeff Lee 08-17-2011 11:20 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 275833)
I ordered/bought a NEW 1969 Chevelle 300 Deluxe 2 door SEDAN with a 396/375 and a Turbo trans --it came from the factory with a 4:88,HD suspension,posi ,a tinted windshield NO radio bench seat rubber floor mats dog dish hubcaps--- Marina blue with a black interior--had SS emblems on it and the SS hood no other ID stuff on it other than the front marker lights said 396 replaced them the first nite with stock 6 cylinder lights and that thing would scream pulled the engine at about 1500 miles put in a 430 ci BBC would drive it too the track put a set of M&H 10:00 XS-11 slicks on it pull the Corvair turbo mufflers off rejet the carb roll a set of plugs in nad set the timing thing would run 10.70 at about 123 then trun around put it back together and drive it home---won a lotta money with that car too---car never saw rain or snow sat in a heated garage all winter sold it in 1974 with the original engine for $7500 to buy a house--wish I had it now!!!! FED387

$7500 was a gazillion dollars for a muscle car in 1974! Somebody wanted that car BAD! I'm guessing that was 1/3rd of the price of the home?

RebelRoad 08-17-2011 12:20 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott helms (Post 275896)
The front marker light said 396 that was a 1968 piece, speaking of 1968 does anybody remember a 1968 427 Chevelle from factory? Why not in book. not enough made?

There were no factory 427 Chevelles or Camaro's built. In 68. Hi Po dealers like Yenko, Dana etc were doing transplants and Joel Rosen @ Motion Perf & Dick Harrell were doing them in their own shops also.

The '68 COPO Nova was about the closest thing to a factory supercar that year. Ordered under COPO #9738, they were the 1st Chevy's with a 396 big block tied to a special M40 automatic and 4:10 posi rear. Harrell advertised his conversions up to 500hp. Fred Gibb placed the order for all 50 and sold them thru a network of dealers...he felt that these special M40 Nova's could be more competitive with Mopars & Fords running BB automatics

scott helms 08-17-2011 12:42 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Thanks I know a buddy had one years back not SS but had hood and badges, said it was ordered and I saw paperwork just never seen anymore, like FED387 I've only seen one. And there was a Chevelle with a 427 from factory I believe it was 1966 SS427!!

X-TECH MAN 08-17-2011 12:55 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott helms (Post 275924)
Thanks I know a buddy had one years back not SS but had hood and badges, said it was ordered and I saw paperwork just never seen anymore, like FED387 I've only seen one. And there was a Chevelle with a 427 from factory I believe it was 1966 SS427!!

Before 1969 they (427's) were all transplants from specialty dealers like Yenko, Balwin-Motion, etc. .

FED 387 08-17-2011 12:56 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
not to hijack this thread but how many remember the 67-70 SS427 Impala??? Had a 67 that was in decent shape sold it to a guy that has totally restored it to the tune of about $30-40 thousand looks like a brand new car----

X-TECH MAN 08-17-2011 12:59 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 275929)
not to hijack this thread but how many remember the 67-70 SS427 Impala??? Had a 67 that was in decent shape sold it to a guy that has totally restored it to the tune of about $30-40 thousand looks like a brand new car----

Yep....they were a lot larger than the "Pony" cars and Chevelles mentioned here. Love the gas milage.

FED 387 08-17-2011 01:01 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
sorry it is 67-68-69 NOT 70

X-TECH MAN 08-17-2011 01:10 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 275934)
sorry it is 67-68-69 NOT 70

69 is the best one....you could get it with a 400 Turbo.

Alan Roehrich 08-17-2011 01:11 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Actually, the big car had the 427 available from 1966 until 1969.

Over on Competition Plus, they have a link to the video from the 1978 SportsNationals, Stock came down to S.E Buchanan in his D/S Mustang and Bobby Blankenship in his B/S 66 Biscayne 427/425.

All of the 66 427/425 2 door big cars were natural B cars and stick only. But there were real 66 Chevy big cars with the 427/425 and a 4 speed.

RebelRoad 08-17-2011 01:20 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scott helms (Post 275924)
Thanks I know a buddy had one years back not SS but had hood and badges, said it was ordered and I saw paperwork just never seen anymore, like FED387 I've only seen one. And there was a Chevelle with a 427 from factory I believe it was 1966 SS427!!

Joel Rosen @ Motion installed an L88 in a 66 Chevelle back in the day. The owner drove it to the track, put some cheater slicks on & set a track record. The car was in GA for a while, but recently sold to a collector in NY. Pretty sure that the only 'factory' Hi-Po 427's in '66 were going in Corvettes...but I could be wrong. I'm no expert

63corvette 08-17-2011 03:04 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
I had two different friends that bought 68 Chevelle's with the 396-375 HP 4 speed options.
Both had cast iron heads.
Fastest cars around in 1968.
Rick Cates

Paul Ceasrine 08-17-2011 03:30 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 63corvette (Post 275972)
I had two different friends that bought 68 Chevelle's with the 396-375 HP 4 speed options.
Both had cast iron heads.
Fastest cars around in 1968.
Rick Cates

1968 SS 396 Chevelle's, with the L-78 375HP engines
Leave the dealership, and head to the track for B/S or SS/E.

63corvette 08-17-2011 03:52 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 275981)
1968 SS 396 Chevelle's, with the L-78 375HP engines
Leave the dealership, and head to the track for B/S or SS/E.

Maybe I should have said fastest car on the street in 1968 in the area where I lived.
Those two friends had to race each other as I never saw either loose a street race to anyone other than each other in the summer of 1968.
The GTO's, 442's, Hemi and 440 GTX, and even a few street strip cars went down to those Chevelle's in 1968 in north Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and part of Kansas. We traveled a lot of miles and street raced in a lot of places in the summer of 1968.
No matter how fast they were in 68 they were no longer king in 1969 and replaced by some newer cars.
Things change quickly and one of the friends was married following the summer of 68 and sold his car. The other friend kept his for many years and I am not sure what ever happened to his car. I ran into him a few years ago and he told me he did not have the Chevelle any more and did not say where it went.
The late 60's were a fun time for me when gas was cheap and all the muscle cars were around.
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

Greg Hill 08-17-2011 03:58 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 275929)
not to hijack this thread but how many remember the 67-70 SS427 Impala??? Had a 67 that was in decent shape sold it to a guy that has totally restored it to the tune of about $30-40 thousand looks like a brand new car----

Had a friend when I was in high school, 3 years older than me, with a brand new 66 Chevy Caprice with a 427/425 4 speed. I didn't know it at the time but that had to be a very rare car. His dad was the front end man at the local chevy dealer.

Paul Ceasrine 08-17-2011 04:04 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
A little '1969' match race;
1968 426 Street-Hemi Road Runner SS/DA
versus
1968 Chevelle SS 396 (396/375HP) B/S (opposite lane, see the vent window 1968 Model)

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=4193

X-TECH MAN 08-17-2011 04:13 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 63corvette (Post 275990)
Maybe I should have said fastest car on the street in 1968 in the area where I lived.
Those two friends had to race each other as I never saw either loose a street race to anyone other than each other in the summer of 1968.
The GTO's, 442's, Hemi and 440 GTX, and even a few street strip cars went down to those Chevelle's in 1968 in north Texas, Oklahoma, New Mexico, and part of Kansas. We traveled a lot of miles and street raced in a lot of places in the summer of 1968.
No matter how fast they were in 68 they were no longer king in 1969 and replaced by some newer cars.
Things change quickly and one of the friends was married following the summer of 68 and sold his car. The other friend kept his for many years and I am not sure what ever happened to his car. I ran into him a few years ago and he told me he did not have the Chevelle any more and did not say where it went.
The late 60's were a fun time for me when gas was cheap and all the muscle cars were around.
My 2 Cents
Rick Cates

Id bet the one who got married dosent have the wife anymore either.....LOL.

Hemi Moose 08-17-2011 04:15 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine (Post 275998)
A little '1969' match race;
1968 Hemi Road Runner SS/DA
versus
1969 Chevelle SS 396 B/S (opposite lane)

So who won the race, lol. ;)

Paul Ceasrine 08-17-2011 04:57 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
1969 Photo
1969 Chevelle COPO 427, running in SS/E

http://wildmusclecars.com/wp-content...le-506x400.jpg

Paul Ceasrine 08-17-2011 05:17 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 276005)
So who won the race, lol. ;)

Moose,

I had to make a small correction.
The 1968 Chevelle SS 396 (375 HP) was classed in B/S for 1969.

Jim LeRoux ran a 12.73 @ 111 MPH in the 1968 Hemi Road Runner.
Pretty much a basic stock Street-Hemi, with 4.56 gears, headers,
a little transmission work and 10" slicks.

The 1968 Chevelle SS 396, B/Stock,,,,had some goodies too.
...and ran a very close 12.85 @ 111 MPH.

Note: Jim took it easy on the 68' Chevelle SS,,,,,,,,,as the 68' Hemi Road Runner
was capable of running 12.10's @ 118 MPH.

pc

Hemi Moose 08-18-2011 12:00 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Paul C, I guess all you have to do now is find a old photo of a real 427 Chevelle going up against a 426 Hemi car, now that will be a good one. :D

396chevy 08-18-2011 09:47 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hemi Moose (Post 276125)
Paul C, I guess all you have to do now is find a old photo of a real 427 Chevelle going up against a 426 Hemi car, now that will be a good one. :D

Might be several out there. I raced Carrol Fink's hemi at the 1974 division 3 indy points meet. I'll have to think alittle if any others. I do know where a photo of my black copo chevelle racing a nito 9 mustang. Might be a few pictures at local Pittsburg tracks of this car in 1973 and 1974

Kenny Bomar 08-18-2011 07:12 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
I had the first 1966 396/375 chevelle in memphis tn, bought it new I was 17 yrs old paid $3845.99 for it, I still have the original bill sheet ! Wish I still had the car !! Boy did I have fun w/ it no/one had seen a 375hp so all the other muscle cars took me on thinking of a 325hp, no comparison as we all know now! After a cpl of trips to jail for street racing I decided the parking was too high at their lot so I went to Lakeland Dragstrip It was on then !! What a blast! It ran in A/ps a pure stock class had to have street tires mufflers, suppose to be stock all over. Then when I finally had $ to buy headers I ran A/S Then the next year NHRA refactored the engine and the 375hp hardtop could not make the #per hp to run stock only a convertible 66 would make it. So I saved my pennies skipped lunches worked o/t as an app. electrician and purchased an L-88 short block from chevy for $430. put it in the car and ran B/mp as they say having a blast Back in the DAY!!!

CycloneFE 08-18-2011 08:00 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
My favorite video...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9XArr1p4QY

denny harvey 08-18-2011 08:31 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
a salesman at conners chevy in whitehall,ohio back in the day had a blue 69 copo chevelle that just killed everyone at green gables [ big street racing hangout ]. car had headers and 4:56 gears.what was funny was they had 12 to 15 copo camaros on the lot,but he had kids and choose the chevelle.too bad all i could drive then was a stingray bike...also downtown at white chevy on broad st they had yenkos on the new car lot outside...outside..dam

joe huestis 08-18-2011 09:04 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Paul,
Was that photo taken at Dover Drag Strip in Wingdale,NY ? Those fences in the background look awefully familiar. And was the chevelle of Frank Russo that of "Russo's Rat" fame ? I remember it well.
Joe Huestis

RebelRoad 08-19-2011 08:51 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 396chevy (Post 276157)
Might be several out there. I raced Carrol Fink's hemi at the 1974 division 3 indy points meet. I'll have to think alittle if any others. I do know where a photo of my black copo chevelle racing a nito 9 mustang. Might be a few pictures at local Pittsburg tracks of this car in 1973 and 1974

Thanks for the PM's...looks like we may have located your old COPO Chevelle. Try to post a pic or 2

Paul Ceasrine 08-20-2011 10:32 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Rock,,

For the NHRA in 1969, the 1969 Chevelle Malibu 427 COPO,
with the L-72 engine (425 HP) was originally built for the
SS/D and/or SS/DA class..

But in 1969 the NHRA re-adjusted the classes, and the 1969 Chevelle 427 COPO
was classed in SS/E or SS/EA, in with the B-Body Street-Hemi cars (except the heavier Dodge Chargers or convertible B-Body cars).

The SS/E class weight factor was (7.50 - 7.99 wt/hp).
The 69' Chevelle Malibu with the 427/425 HP L-72 weighed in at
#3554 lbs. (manual) or #3611 lbs. (automatic).

The 425 HP engine was re-factored to a higher rating, which placed the
Chevelle's in that HP/weight bracket.
Also, the cars could be classed in A/S for 1969.

In 1970,,,,the Chevelle 427 COPO car was re-classed back into SS/D,
and/or B/S in the stock class.

The carburetor, was a Holley Model #4150 780 CFM, w/vacuum secondaries.

Overall, a very powerful 'street car',,,,,,,,and driveable without any major problems,
at the track,,,,,moderate success,,,,,

pc



pc

larrylomascolo 08-20-2011 10:57 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CycloneFE (Post 276323)

Kevin Borgstrom yenko chevelle, he put a stick in car and ran AA/S ,beautiful car.

Frank Castros 08-20-2011 11:02 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Paul,

What ever happened to one of my favorite Dover cars "Russo's Rat" and was it an original COPO?

Paul Ceasrine 08-20-2011 11:42 AM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Frank Castro and Joe Huestis,,,,,

Yes, that is a 1969 Dover photo,,,,,,,but that Chevelle (1968 B/S) was not
Frank Russo's Chevelle.

Frank Russo's car was an original 1969 Chevelle SS396 (375 HP), 4-speed.
Bought out of Carmel, New York,,,,,'Putnam Motor Sales'
Dark blue original color...

Frank also ran in B/S in 1969,,,,,,,and a solid Class Winner running around 12.60's...
Went into SS/E in 1970,, and did pretty good at the 1970 NHRA Summernationals at York US Drag-O-Way, in Pennsylvania.
Won a couple of rounds in class, before breaking.

And here it is,,,,,

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...dc12d0331e12cf

Frank Castros 08-20-2011 12:18 PM

Re: 1969 Chevelle COPO 427
 
Thanks Paul. What a great race car.


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