neck collar
 

Do you still have to use a neck collar if you use a head and neck restraint ex. hutchens device??

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NO but it is optional not mandatory---ya need one or the other but check the class rules some classes HANS is MANDATORY

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ok thanks. would be running s/gas

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If you use a HANS device, you will still need the neck collar, OR a head sock, OR a skirted helmet. It is in the 2012 rules amendments.

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WRONG WRONG!!!!!--- go back and read the rules amendments for 2012 EITHER collar or HANS -- however some classes /some types of vehicles(open/closed) some ET's Some MPH a HANS is required in lieu of a donut-----read it closely!!!!!

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If I remember correctly, the mfg'rs of the Hans and Safety Solutions units ( I have the pro-rage) tell you to NOT wear a neck collar with a restraint, it will interfere with proper fit and operation...I know with the rage, I dont see how I could wear the collar and not have it mess with the teathers and release strings...

Also if you wear a restraint, you must have a head sock or helmet skirt...

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the only places I see a skirt or sock required here is for FRONT ENGINE or Supercharged or turbocharged vehicles or in some instances Nitrous cars---be damned if I can find where in the 2012 rule book OR 2012 amendments that with a HANS you MUST use a sock or skirt---please enlighten me where does it say that--I looked thru the rule book for over an hour and I do not see that anywhere---not talking about any Alcohol or Nitro classes either--thanx Comp

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I just received an email from NHRA tech, Pat Cvengros, You do not need the neck collar BUT you will need the head sock or skirted helmet.
Here is the email content.

If I decide to use a HANS type device, (not a class requirement) while racing in SG and/or SC.

1. Do I still have to use a neck collar?

2. If no neck collar, do I have to use a head sock or shirted helmet?

Thanks,
Dan Foley




No you would not be required to use a neck collar if you used a head and neck restraint system. You would however need a head sock or skirted helmet.

Pat Cvengros

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You're right finally found it it is under the PROTECTIVE CLOTHING section not in the helmet or neck collar restraint area---

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I wear a HANS with a helmet skirt.

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I just hate it when people are so adamant about telling how wrong I am..........LOL

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hey smart ***----it is not necessary to wear both the HANS & the donut
ONE OR THE OTHER is OK---as far as the head sock we ran using a HANS all of 2010 and most of 2011 NEVER HAD A SOCK OR A SKIRT nobody ever questioned it---maybe we just got lucky and got away with something BUT if we had known that it was mandatory no problem we would have gotten one---not trying to skate on the rules just never knew we needed it---as far as being adamennt YOU CAN USE A HANS WITHOUT A COLLAR if you want to use one it's up to the racer but it is not necessary---as I said one or the other is OK--- end of discussion

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You need two things: whiplash protection and fire protection. A collar provides both. A head-and-neck device only provides the former, so you need a sock or skirted helmet for the fire protection. This is not new, this has been in place since head-and-neck devices were approved.

FWIW, I wear a Hybrid Pro with a head sock.

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Thanks Chris. I didn't think this was new info either.

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I saw a kit to add a skirt to the helmet,anyone know if that would be legal or does it have to be manufactured with the skirt? Thank's Ray
Have to get a new helmet as mine is out of date now.($1,000 custom painted bowling ball now,getting a shelf full of these )

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I asked our local division tech folks a couple years ago and was told, yes, they're fine.

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I was just reading the rule book a snell sa2000 is still legal?
for adv et and td, I thought they were done.
I hope I was wrong.

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If you go to page 304 of the rule book. General Regulations Sect 10-7. It shows the expiration of the Snell 2000 as 1/1/2012. Like you I was hoping they were still OK.

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Ryck Campbell division 1 tech confirmed that the snell sa2000 is done 1/1/2012

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Can anyone tell me if S/G and/or S/C will be required to have a neck restraint this year?
Page of rule book or where to find on NHRA site would also be appreciated!
Thanks, Rich
Time To Move Racing
S/G 1490. S/C 1490

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No. TS/TD required. Optional in SC/SG.

All this stuff can be found on http://nhraracer.com.

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I use a g-force helmet skirt as far as I know they don't have to be SFI certified yet for S/G orS/C.

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That's not the case. They must be SFI 3.3.

Same language in the SC section.

Chris

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I stand corrected, the do need to be SFI 3.3
(Oh great now not only do I need a new helmet, I also need a new helmet skirt!):eek:

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After a ton of wrestling with this, I went with a head sock. Thought I'd hate it, but now I like it. I have two, and on those hot days, I swap it out so it can be dry. Keeps the helmet a lot drier too, a sock hanging up dries out much faster than a helmet.