A990 Super Stockers
 

Might as well start a discussion on these factory built 1965 A990 Dodge & Plymouth Super Stockers.
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/10/07/74/51/1965co10.jpg

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Anyone here know the history on any of these '65 A990 Dodge Coronets...

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...g/sweetpea.jpg
http://www.65dodge.ch/images/4261338...glanes_lbb.jpg
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3091/2...7ef_z.jpg?zz=1
http://www.65dodge.ch/images/3576008...42187l_lbb.jpg

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A good friend of mine owns the "Bob Banning" A990 car. I'll see if I can dig up some pics.

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The 1965 Record Holder,,,,,,

http://www.colesy-juniorstockforum.c...62d69584d18745

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http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...udySchings.jpg

http://i258.photobucket.com/albums/h...ymouthHemi.jpg

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Does anyone have any information about this car? It was for sale at an IHRA Nationals in St Louis back in the mid 70s and I came very close to buying it.

I didn't know enough about those cars at the time to check it out properly so I have no idea if it was a factory car or a home built.

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Great photos guys...and as for the 65 Hemi Plymouth called "Kansas Hemi" I've always thought it was a real car, maybe someone else on here can verify if it was or not.

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...9&d=1326301230

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Any info about this A990.
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=2265
Tom Kasch photo.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmw_zLNlwk

A Z11 Impala and a Mopar match racing.Don't know whose Mopar???

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http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...01_BPCcopy.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...g450_2copy.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...img323copy.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...Photo2copy.jpg
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/g...0014x6copy.jpg

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August 1970 Photo,
Jacobs Brothers
'Scarsdale Dodge', New York
SS/BA,,,,Automatic

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=3253

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Any idea who's red 65 A990 Plymouth this was originally...also Jack Werst's 65 A990 Plymouth Mr. 5 & 50...some now & before shots.
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=6212
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5106
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5107
http://classracer.com/classforum/pic...pictureid=5108

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Rich Brostek,
SS/BA
from Uniondale, Long Island, New York

sponsored by 'Speedwin'

June 1970 photo

Could this Plymouth Hemi run,,,,,,,,,,,'it had an amazing top end'

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=3541

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=3543

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Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the Butch Leal " California Flash " super stocker built by the factory many years later and at that time was ahead of its time in construction and /or detail.--------John:confused:

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The Jack Werst car Mr 5&50 later became the car that Ken Montgomery 555 ran for a short time.The car got hit on the return road at Indy by Ramchargers and flipped.

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Ken bought this car new and still has it.

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As it looks today

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Quite possibly the 'first' scheduled Match Race Event
between a 65' A-990 Race Hemi Plymouth versus a 65' A-990 Race Hemi Dodge.

These Super/Stockers weren't running on 7" skinny slicks though,,,

March 21, 1965


http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=5044

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Copy of photo signed by Ken after I picked up car..one of my favorites hanging in my garage...

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...0autograph.jpg

I think this is Indy not sure what year....

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...uff/550red.jpg

Blue paint scheme....

http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t...ff/550blue.jpg

Hemi Moose????
http://i621.photobucket.com/albums/t.../hemimoose.jpg

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Alex, I hope you don't mind but I just used some photos from your Classracer album...anyway can you clear up some history on the car, as mentioned earlier Ken Montgomery owned it so I assume he got it off of Jack Werst or someone else...also have you started the restoration on the Jack Werst '65 A990 Plymouth yet...and whats the story on the red '65 A990 Plymouth.

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I'm not sure if Butch Leal had 'two cars' an early one used in the mid sixties as see below, and a 'later one' used in the mid seventies that is currently restored...but is it the same A990 Plymouth.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...s/CaFlash1.jpg

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Don't mind at all. Just having fun. Private message me who you are. Like to share info with guys I know. Heck maybe you can help me fill in some blanks, you have alot of knowledge it looks like.

I haven't figured out the owners between Jack Werst and Ken. When I got the car from Ken in 06 I think he said it came from the Scranton, PA area. Havent started the restoration except for lifting the roof off the cage and then putting the doors back on. Searching for parts. About impossible to find the glass.

As for the 65 my dad used to race/own. It is now owned(last time I checked) by the Holton family. It originally was out of Wyoming. John Wilson first 65 race car(before the brown one-if your from the midwest you'll know).

Later,
Alex

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When Chrysler boycotted Pro Stock ,all the the factory drivers went back to Super Stock. Sox went back to a 68 SS/A Cuda, Dick Landy drove a SS/DA Challenger and Butch Leal drove a SS/B A990 Plymouth built by Butler. I have to assume that could be Ron Butler ! So there was 2 of them. :confused:

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Leal's cars are two different cars, both have been restored to their proper appearances except for the second car, which has been restored to it's appearance as purchased by Steve Bagwell. The first was an original A990 car, I am unsure on the second, but believe it is as well. The second car was built by Ron Butler.

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Flame me but the Plymouth was a better looking car that year.
JMHO!

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So you like the '65 Belvedere body style better that the '65 Coronet, huh.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/a...3&d=1273874122

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Yes sir!
A bit more style and the lines just seem to have some angle and muscle.
Faster looking if you will allow.
A guy in my high school had a red plymouth, 4sp that I believe was a 383. Painted it black in later years. Another friend had a gold Coronet that I think was a 361(?) four speed. Looked like a tank next to the Plymouth.
What I'd give to have some of those cars today.

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Looks fast just sittin' there.

No trailer fenders and pushing a T-bird tow car.

That's dedication.

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Well then here's another '65 A990 Plymouth super-stocker...

http://images110.fotki.com/v1539/pho.../img334-vi.jpg

http://images50.fotki.com/v1526/phot.../img320-vi.jpg

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Both original cars. Have the vins in my notes somewhere. Talked to Butch a year or two ago. I think the second car was in Bud Spears livery before resto but someone can confirm that. If I remember right Butch said the second car was quicker than Sox&Martins 68 in early testing in 74??? in California. Have to look at those notes again.

FYI,
Alex

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Ain't she pretty,

(April 1965)
1965 Plymouth S/SA.

http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=1992

Not all 'tartered up',,,,,,

Very trick suspension on this car,,,,
Most of the Super Stock Mopars back then,,,,,,,
When leaving the line, first the back-end lifted, then it launched off the line,,,

But the Black Arrow,,,,,was pre-loaded,,,,,,the back-end never lifted,
it just launched,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,:D

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Who said that Sox & Martin didn't also have a 65' A-990 S/S Plymouth
Belvedere,,,,,,,

This went along with the 65' 2% AWB #2700 lb Hardtop car,,,,

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lc...cd2wo1_500.jpg

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Hemi Moose: The Greg Charney Dodge you asked about belonged to Walt Ulrich of Royal Oak Mi. He was an eng. builder for Chrysler. He had it sitting in his back yard, I don't know wher he got it, but had it for a few yrs. He and Greg put it togather and won Indy with it. Don't remember when either '70 or 71. Greg worked as a dyno op. with Walt for Chrysler. Walt, a good friend of mine, is in his upper 70's was a origional member of The Golden Cammandos. If any know where Walt got this Dodge, (an origional 990 ) feel free to add to this.

Ray Remington
Slack Time Racing

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Is it just the angle or was the front track narrowed on the front of this one?

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Here's the California Flash (Super/Stock Stick car) at Indy 1965.

According to Butch Leal, he bought this car in August 1965 (3 weeks before the Indy Nationals)

Leal and Sissener Racing Team

http://www.quartermilestones.com/pho...n2/RMA6505.jpg

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I recall reading and being told back in the day that the second generation California Flash '65 was not an original A990 car.

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Les Norton has one. He purchased it from Tom Howell out of kansas to arizona. It was a altered wheelbase at one time, car then converted back. Les usually brings it out to run it at Denver. It is painted like the old Bagwell car but I dont think it is. Tom howell knew ALL the history on it. I know he does not do the computer thing but maybe Les will.

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The 65' 2% AWB car,,,,,,,,,,

In California (April, 1965)
'Leal and Shahan Racing Team'
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...HL65carnew.jpg

2700 lb. Gas/FC cars (Butch Leal and Sox & Martin, in their 1965 Match-Race Tour.
September 1965 (Dover Drag Strip, Wingdale, New York)
'Leal and Sissener Racing Team'
http://www.doverdragstrip.com/phpBB3...le.php?id=3750

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A couple of factory racers moved the front wheels up a few inches, that is why people refer to them as 2% cars, they also did this to some early '64 Dodges & Plymouths... then they really went crazy by moving the front & rear wheels on the '65 A/FX'ers...see Pauly's photos above!!! :eek:

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Not talking about the wheebase. I'm looking at the width between the front wheels. (the track)
Just seems to appear narrow. Thought maybe they were looking at some possible performance advantage.