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Jeff Teuton 09-25-2012 10:28 PM

I got bumped
 
I won class at Gainesville, No Problem, and Dallas, and somehow I got bumped from the whole list. I was also the fastest in the therapy hall for a new hip, but I don't think there are points for that. I'm sure it's a typo.

KRatcliff 09-25-2012 10:31 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Sorry about that. I was sandbagging. :)

Jeff Teuton 09-25-2012 11:18 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
You lightweight(younger, new car)guys need to be factored, hence the AHFS (Automatic Hip Factoring System). 1.20 or more at one walk without the therapist helping you gets hit instantly. A hit is described in that case as making you walk back unassisted. Even I can't make much of this.

SStockDart 09-25-2012 11:25 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Hey Jeff, from one "wanna be coon as-" to a coon as-............You have had a hip replaced, I have had a knee replaced.....I can't even crawl 60'....I can barely crawl into our car. I figure that if I can get into the car................that is as good as a win...lol...

Mickey Whaley 09-25-2012 11:31 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Did they say excuise me when they bumped you?

KRatcliff 09-25-2012 11:43 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 348728)
You lightweight(younger, new car)guys need to be factored, hence the AHFS (Automatic Hip Factoring System). 1.20 or more at one walk without the therapist helping you gets hit instantly. A hit is described in that case as making you walk back unassisted. Even I can't make much of this.

I am getting older because I looked in the mirror the other day and realized I replaced my milk moustache with a Metamucil moustache. :eek:


Jeff Teuton 09-26-2012 12:25 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
There was no excuse me. And to lose me? You can't lose me. I just keep coming back just for spite. It's a typo. I think.

Jim Wahl 09-26-2012 12:59 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 348737)
I am getting older because I looked in the mirror the other day and realized I replaced my milk moustache with a Metamucil moustache. :eek:


Now that's funny..... I don't care who you are! Jim


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Mack Reeves 09-26-2012 05:43 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Wahl (Post 348817)
Now that's funny..... I don't care who you are! Jim


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I don't think it's a bit funny...... Its true!!!!! In my case!!!!!!!

Ed Wright 09-26-2012 05:54 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Bumped from Nitro Joe's book?

Jeff Teuton 09-26-2012 07:03 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Come on Ed, you gotta keep up. The not-so-well-knownl Stock and Super Stock Class Championship. You know you gotta win class or runner up or so and you get points, then it's worth so much for each decal you have at the end of the year. I won two and was on the list with 2 @ 85 for 170 points, won the third in Dallas this weekend and I disappeared off the whole list. Typo I'm sure, cause I think I spotted a couple more folks who's points aren't correct.

Ed Wright 09-26-2012 09:17 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Sorry I'm so out of touch Jeff. Thanks for the info.

art leong 09-26-2012 09:31 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
The 255 number is meaningless. It will be a multiple tie. The number of rounds is the one that will decide it.
And that isn't posted. Neither is the number of races.

Chuck Beach 09-27-2012 11:26 AM

Re: I got bumped
 
Jeff, your back .... 2nd

Tom Moock 09-27-2012 11:58 AM

Re: I got bumped
 
Jeff, you must have made someone mad, they took off 21 points. Tom

jmcarter 09-27-2012 01:16 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Maybe they deduct a point for every HP they've added? Nah, that's not it...

http://www.nhra.net/2012/images/NHRA...LASSPOINTS.pdf

Jeff Teuton 09-27-2012 02:54 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
They gettin it fixed. Problem found. Thanks NHRA. See, they ain't so bad after all. And I thought they were just mad at me again.

Brett C 09-27-2012 03:52 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
The squeaky wheel gets the oil ;)!

Brett Candies
4192 Stock/SS

Jeff Teuton 09-27-2012 04:02 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
It wouldn't have come up on the final balance sheet, but I like to do my tax preparing as I go. Or something like that.

Charley Downing 09-27-2012 06:12 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Jeff who did you talk to at NHRA. I also need them to fix my class points I should have 255 points after the oh sportsnats.

Bob Gullett 09-27-2012 07:13 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Just curious as to what the winner of each category gets? Also what do they use as a tie breaker as there is a lot of racers with 255 points.

Jeff Teuton 09-27-2012 07:29 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
85 to win class up to 3 best events. Tie breaker is number of rounds. Indy don't count, Sportsnationals can use one only, I think the details are on the Tech web site.

art leong 09-27-2012 07:38 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 349042)
85 to win class up to 3 best events. Tie breaker is number of rounds. Indy don't count, Sportsnationals can use one only, I think the details are on the Tech web site.

As far as I know Indy counts. Or so they posted a while back. Ibest 3 of first 5 but only one sports nats counts.

Tony Janes 09-27-2012 08:04 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Indy only counted for money and trophies and money, no points

Tom Moock 09-27-2012 09:03 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Rules for tie breaker go to NHRA main page, go to points, then go to SS and S points page, their is a link at bottom of page about tie breaker. Tom

442OLDS 09-27-2012 10:02 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 349051)
Indy only counted for money and trophies and money, no points

http://www.nhraracer.com/content/gen...909&zoneid=176

art leong 09-28-2012 09:32 AM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Janes (Post 349051)
Indy only counted for money and trophies and money, no points

This year all races where class was run counted for points.

Charley Downing 09-28-2012 11:19 AM

Re: I got bumped
 
At INDY I talked to Bruce and Charlie about the class points
Indy counts for points this year. This was posted back in Jan of this year.
Tie breaker is rounds of class won
Next tie breaker is whoever runs the most under there index during class eliminations.
So right now I should be leading the class points for Stk Stick
With three race wins(INDY, Charlotte and Columbus sportsnats) and 8 rounds of class won. I also went 1.13 under in the class final at Columbus last week.
Winner gets $500 from each sponsor that they have on their car along with a class size trophy.

Jeff Teuton 09-28-2012 12:46 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Go to Schdule/Stats at the top of the NHRA Competition link from here. The points are up through 9/25 and the rules are at the bottom including the tie-breaker. Indy don't count. Or that is what the rules say. Charlie Neilson at NHRA was working on fixing the thing, and they will probably get it done soon. That posting thru 9/25 shows they are working on it.

Tim Kish 09-28-2012 12:59 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Rules page was never updated this year, still show the combos getting less points than the other classes which was also previously announced to change this year. With a R/U and a win I'm not even on the list. Looks like a very efficienct system.

A deeper look and the full points listing is last years.....I had a 2nd rounder last year at the Northern SportsNational, appearantly that didn't count either... Glad I'm not after the points.

Charley Downing 09-28-2012 01:49 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Kish is right the rules were never undated on that page.

Hear is what was posted on Jan 26 2012 by NHRAracer.com

NHRA announced today that it will expand its innovative Stock and Super Stock Class Eliminations points program to all events where class racing is scheduled to be contested during the 2012 NHRA Lucas Oil Drag Racing Series season. Last season only 11 of the 12 races were part of the program.

The popular program, which was fine-tuned one year ago to increase participation from competitors as well as contingency sponsors, also will see the all Combo Class racers become eligible for the same points as their natural class counterparts.

While a few minor adjustments have been made to the initial program changes from last year, the new program was deemed a success on many levels and NHRA officials say they have already signed several additional contingency sponsors to participate in the program and anticipate more to follow as the season gets underway.

Contingency awards will continue to be presented at four races, the Mac Tools U.S. Nationals and the three NHRA JEGS SportsNationals events.

“As times have changed, the changes that were made to the Class Eliminations program last year is what allowed it to continue,” said Scooter Brothers, chairman of the SEMA Board of Directors and chief operating officer, Comp Cams. “It is now a more viable program for the manufacturers and it allows these companies to find a reason to get involved.”

2012 Super Stock/Stock Class Eliminations

How points are earned:


A racer will be allowed to accumulate points at the 3 of the racer's first 5 events.

All events where class competition takes place are point’s eligible events.

One SPORTSnationals event will be allowed to be included in the 3 points events that make up the racer's total.

The combo class will run against the index and the no breakout rule will apply.

Wally's will be awarded to the winners of the combo class and the natural classes.

At contingency awards paying events (3 Sportsnationals events and Indy), the winners of the combo classes and natural class winners will be eligible for contingency awards.


In the event of weather or other conditions that causes the cancellation of class eliminations, the low qualifier for the class will be awarded winner points (based on the number of cars registered in the class), a Wally and contingency awards (at events where contingency is awarded). The winner of the combo class will be the car running furthest under the racer’s class index and will receive winner points (based on the number of cars registered for the combo), a Wally and contingency awards (at events where contingency is awarded). If all event qualifying is cancelled, all elements of class competition will be cancelled for the event

art leong 09-28-2012 02:52 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
In Jeffs case they probably had a typo.
But if you don't have 3 wins in either the stock or superstock automatic you can't even think about winning.
I wish they would post the number of rounds and the number of races each racer has competed in.
The easy way to do this would be to give "little points" (their words not mine) for each round won. Then there wouldn't be so many ties.
I was going for this thing til I got snake bit with 3 different problems. So I know pretty much how it was run.

jmcarter 10-02-2012 01:58 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Points fixed....looks like Jeff is back in NHRA's good graces...

http://www.nhra.net/2012/images/NHRA...LASSPOINTS.pdf

Ed Wright 10-02-2012 04:33 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Heck, I thought maybe they had banned him. LOL

Hemi Moose 10-02-2012 05:45 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
I heard he sent them all a cooler full of Crawdads & hot sauce...;)

bptracing 10-02-2012 06:25 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
I heard his team got caught taking one of the NHRA tech guys girlfriend out to dinner!http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...01-25_187a.jpg

Mack Reeves 10-02-2012 06:59 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bptracing (Post 349864)
I heard his team got caught taking one of the NHRA tech guys girlfriend out to dinner!http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...01-25_187a.jpg


Does that shock anyone ?????

Ed Wright 10-02-2012 08:07 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack Reeves (Post 349871)
Does that shock anyone ?????

Nobody that knows them. :-)

Ellis A Buth 10-04-2012 05:36 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
I won the combo at Bella Rose and Indy and I am not on the list at all

Jeff Teuton 10-04-2012 09:04 PM

Re: I got bumped
 
bpt;, it was dinner and drinks.


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