1965 Impala BBC Stocker Update
 

Since my original Thread got "highjacked" by a lot of non-pertaining bull, here is an update. One of the reasons why i started this thread was 10 years ago when I first built my 68 Impala stocker I was told by a lot of people not to do it because it was a "parts breaker"

I made over 100 passes in that Stick Shift 4095 lb and only broke once, and that was a set of 4:88's on the 19th pass and the reason why they were street gears and not Pro Gears which i put in and are still in that rear.

Also told a big car, big cube combo is not as good as a light car, small cube (small block Camaro's make up a bulk of H & I Stock) but I did run 7-8 tenths under.

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Here are updated photos. Starting body work with 1/4 panels and new trunk floor. Need something to put battery and fuel cell on!

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Here is gusset work started on the frame. This is how a big chevy lives without part breakage. The rear upper control arms crossmember is the most important to fix. The rear tends to pull them out if not strengthen.

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Wil, thanks for the pics! I'm enjoying this, I just love those BB cars.

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Thanks, Wil

How about a similar setup on the uppers, after re-welding of course ?

Love those big cars too.
I started out racing Stock with a 63 Grand Prix, 421 /370 tri-power..4.56's
Right to the floor..6 grand on the line ... even with tires from the 60's

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Will;
Where do you live.
My car is in jersey shore, pa
D

Mark:
Wow that would be a great car to bring back to Stock.

D

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Here is my 68 in 2003

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_SyTvAYeGU"]Stick Shift Impala NHRA Stock Eliminator - YouTube[/ame]

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YEAH.. I saw this on YouTube..

Been to Lebanon Valley a few times...

Dan

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oooohhhh impala!!!!!!!!!! i cant believe that was 2003 already.... 10 years?????? when did we start to work on it?

by the way where is my tooth??????

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Here is my 1969 Impala at Moroso Speedway back in 1990.
Yes it is lifting the left front tire..12.80 that day at 85 Degrees in Florida.
Never got a cold air day ET.

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Here are new pics of the finished frame. Most important section to strengthen is the rear upper control arm crossmember. They tend to pull out.

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Thank you so much..
D

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Rough bodywork is finished. Floor Pans and new trunk installed. Working on mocking up roll bar with frame out of car, attach frame than weld roll bar in. I will have more pics soon.

This might not be a "dime rocket" but I have less than $3000 in this car which includes the purchase price of $1600 delivered from Delaware to NY. Would I use this as a street car restification", no. as the rust repair has been a lot especially with my amateur body work skills and the $199 super Chinese welder i have been using which finally took a crap. My next $ outlay will be for a new and much better welder in 2 weeks.

Really my only big $ outlay will be a converter- I have the rest including rear, 396-325 motor from my 68- I yea, I can use roller rockers now, still have stamp steel rockers in motor, but never broke one when I was racing- probaly due to the low .398 lift. I used regular Crane rockers, not the long slot ones either, never had a problem-

Have to dig my 77 Crew cab dually Chevy truck out to tow wuth and get a trailer too-
Can't wait -
Will lamprecht
Div 1 "Ned" 65 Impala H/I/J Stock

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Question, probaly for Mark Y

I have a built TH350 with 2.75 1st, manual valve body. I bought it brand new in 2002 and has never been run in a car. It has been sitting since. If i take the pan off and due a "visual" and everything looks OK (no rust I guess) would it be safe to install and run as is?

Will L

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I would say "yes"...
But here's what I would do: Keep adding ATF,, 8-9 qts ,, until it runs out the vent..Don't even give it time to fill the converter...Then, after it settles for a while, fire it up and immediately add the remaining 3-4 qts.
Put it in manual low, wait a few seconds, then run it through the gears , light throttle, then try reverse, gently.
You will probably have to drag the brakes to feel the 1-2 shift with it up in the air. Don't be concerned until you drive it with the rpms up a bit.
Good luck

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Thanks Mark-

When it is converter time I will let you know. Will

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more pics

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I hate cell-phone pictures...hurts my neck lol! :p

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My neck hurts too- here are pics fixed.!
Will

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IMPStocker, You have a PM

Scott

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Are we allowed to use a 4 Speed (4L60) auto if we use only the 1-2-3 Gears?

D

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Wil,

Being a newby I would say that I am surprised you are allowed to triangulate the stock suspension mounts with DOM tubing. Then again the rule book doesn't say you can't. If and when we put the 396 in our 69 Chevelle to go C/S racing I am going to do the same. Have you talked to your Division Tech about where the triangulation 'stops' being legal? Good looking build.

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VERY NICE! I love big cars with 4-speeds! The way it was! What motor combo will be run? I'm not too familiar with stock elim. stuff, I guess its a 396-350hp oval port base? I think I have a good steel crank if needed. -Mark

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The tubing is permanent ballast? Could be.

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Here is the completed rear- 4:88's Moser 33 pline spool with rifle drilled axles, "star" flanges, also rear upper control arms, $30 each to builld in parts, not a "dime rocket" but the last time i had someone else fabricate them for my 68 they were $400- don't have that $ now! Also my "poor boy" solid front upper control arm brass bushings. Chucked up on a lathe years ago machined to fit my control arms. Donated brass- total cost $0 Car is wrapped up outside from snow, frame is attached now.

Will Lamprecht 65 Impala 396/325 I/SA in progress

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That's the way I read it. (Copy/paste from rule book)

TRANSMISSION, Automatic
Any model transmission, same make as car, with a maximum of
three forward speeds (unless OEM equipped with more than
three forward speeds). O.D. gear not required, reverse permitted.

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Looking good Will, I can't wait to see it at the track!

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Nice work! -Al

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looks great. weather stinks here in ny. pics are good these days, lol.

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Is that a brace in that location? If so, how dose the panhard bar attach,and work? I had to modify one just to clear that type of cover.Thanks.

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Yes, that is a brace from the cover. I just made a extension around 4 inches long from the bracket on the housing to the panhard bar connection. Worked fine. The real problem are the shocks, you might have to extend those mounting points out a little too. I maxed out what i could as far as strength for this 12 bolt rear, ran it with a stick at 4100 lbs. My friend Pat Heneberry told me years ago when he race his 68 Camaro in C/SM Modified Eliminator he would bend the 12 Bolt rear. Finally just swapped to a DANA 60 fixed that! He still races that car in NETO today with the old paint job and C/SM parts except with a Jerico and a stock 327 block ( I swear cast piston!) ran 11.0's!

Will

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April 1, the cover came off the car- welding roll bar in now with the frame attached with my homemade body mounts.

OK , not that this build is a "dime rocket" but i have a question. I am converting to a manual (obviosly not power assisted) disc brake setup up front instead of the drum brakes. I got the kit to convert using the stock spindles, without telling me to "just get a Wildwood" or some other crazy $200 master cylinder, do I just use a master cylinder for a original drum brake application or a master cylinder for a power disc brakes.? I know I need a proportioning valve, i will get that Jegs adjustable one. I will be replacing with a later model dual resevoir as the 65 Impalas had the single! Any help would be appreciated.

Another question, I never drag raced an automatic tranny, i had a Jerico in my last Impala. I would just put the Jerico in neutral in the shut down area, I heard you can't do this with a Turbo 350 . If anybody can shed more light on this i would appreciate this. Thanks!

Will Lamprecht Div 1 I/SA 65 Imp n progress

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Will - I just converted the Camaro using Aerospace 4-pistons on the rear and 2-pistons on the front. Used a $99 Strange 1.032 master cylinder, no proportioning valve and a 2 pound residual valve in the rear line. I have yet to have the car creep no matter the stall speed. I also used a Bickel master cylinder pushrod kit (http://www.jerrybickel.com/brake-kit...-jbrc1064.html), but you can fabricate something cheaper.

As for shifting out of gear at the end of a run I don't personally do it...heard to many differing accounts to trust it. We use a metric 200.

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Great looking car. Excellent body work.

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Here is update of build. Frame attached w/ solid mounts. Roll Bar and interior sheet metal all done including trunk "firewall" sealing off trunk area. Bucket seat mounting brakets installed Lots of work by myself, may not look it. Happy w/ progress- Rear end , front suspension and brakes next and paint next- hope to have rolling chassis soon.

Will Lamprecht I/SA 396/325 in pregress

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Lots of nice work and attention to detail. -Al

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new pics- painted roll bar & dash, ect- color of car will be same as roll bar, metallic silver.

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WOW! The car looks GREAT ! Well done.

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Nice car! When I did my 66 impala wagon 283 stocker around 1991 I took the whole car apart, got a rust free southern frame, sandblasted it and had my
friend Aldo (ex comp racer) gusset the whole thing. Boxed the upper rear
crossmember and go over factory welds. Scinto and I did a NHRA legal
390/427. TH-400 I look forward to seeing your car finished. Your doing it the
right way! Those 65-70 big Chevies love to tear the control arms, rear, rear
crossmembers out!!

Al jr.