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rodrocket 12-07-2013 05:07 AM

Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Greetings all

I have a Mega 450 box & need to wire it into my car, the car was previously a manual with a Digital 7 & Koni Electronic shock control box

I don't want to tear any of the wiring out of the car as we will go back to a manual & will need the switch on the gas pedal & also the switch on the clutch pedal

I have drawn the complete wiring diagram that's in the car in Microsoft Publisher, if somebody has publisher & can help I am happy to email them the wiring diagram

regards
Rod

cad 12-07-2013 11:41 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Send me the file and I can convert it to a jpg or PDF.
cdoukas@gmail.com
Clark

RacingRicki 12-07-2013 08:55 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Do you have the manual for the Mega 450. You can download it from Digital Delay (see link below). This should help.

http://www.racedigitaldelay.com/pdfs...mega350450.pdf

Also if you have specific questions, ask away. You are more likely to get help.

rodrocket 12-07-2013 11:16 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
thanks Clark, email sent

Ricki, my concern is to were to wire the box into the car, I have Penski rear shocks with the Koni controller & want to make sure that they work in Burnout mode & also Race mode

I don't believe we will need the bump up & bump down buttons so I am notcncerned with them

we don't have a start line enhancer just a plate style under carb stop

the issue's that I am up against is this car was originally a manual with the switches on the Gas & Clutch pedals to trigger the shock controller & I don't want to remove any wiring as we will put the car back to manual eventually

regards
Rod

GaryGoFast 12-08-2013 09:33 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
If I understand you correctly, car was a manual and now an automatic and you need to control your electric shocks. I have Koni electric shocks with an on/ off switch by shifter as well as a micro switch on tranny linkage. The micro switch starts the timer after the 1-2 shift and the on/off switch is too reset timer after burnout or leave them off til after burnout. Really don't need the Mega involved.

rodrocket 12-08-2013 10:58 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
thanks for the reply Gary

yes I have the Koni controller in the car to control the shocks & a switch above me to switch from Burnout mode to Race mode

they will need to be controlled to trigger in conjunction with the Transbrake release

the Mega 450 will also control the throttle stop

regards
Rod

RacingRicki 12-09-2013 11:48 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
You won't be able to control the shocks with the transbrake button if you want to be within the rules. The rule is pretty clear in that there must be only one continuous wire from the transbrake output to the transbrake solenoid with no splices.

Does it have to be triggered on transbrake release or transbrake button release?

rodrocket 12-09-2013 06:21 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingRicki (Post 411819)
You won't be able to control the shocks with the transbrake button if you want to be within the rules. The rule is pretty clear in that there must be only one continuous wire from the transbrake output to the transbrake solenoid with no splices.

Does it have to be triggered on transbrake release or transbrake button release?

thanks Ricki

nothing in our regulations here in Australia about that so I am able to joint it in there somewere

cad 12-10-2013 02:20 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Rod - here is the link to the PDF. This folder on Dropbox should be "shared" so everyone can see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m6l1b6jh8r...ro%20Stock.pdf

Clark

rodrocket 12-10-2013 06:53 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cad (Post 411979)
Rod - here is the link to the PDF. This folder on Dropbox should be "shared" so everyone can see it.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m6l1b6jh8r...ro%20Stock.pdf

Clark


thanks for that Clark, much appreciated

regards
Rod

rodrocket 12-15-2013 12:49 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Now that Clark has posted up the wiring diagram of the car has anybody got any thoughts on this as I need to get this sorted

regards
Rod

rodrocket 12-16-2013 07:30 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
anybody else have any further thoughts on this

rodrocket 12-20-2013 08:28 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Just bumping this to the top as I have had no luck at getting this sorted

rodrocket 12-21-2013 08:11 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
This is as far as I have got so far, I just don't know what wires to connect to where on the other terminals

I am hopping that somebody can look at my wiring diagram that Clark ( cad ) posted earlier & tell me were I need to tap into

Starting from the top of the mega 450 box

+12VDC: connect to main power supply terminal
Trans: ...???
SFO: ...???
T.Stop:connect to throttle stop solonide
Shift: connect to shift solinoide
GND: Connect to main earth point on chassis
PB 1: ...???
PB 2: ...???
Tap PB : ...???
L L PB : ...???
Tach : connect to Grey on MSD Ignition

I have a pro brake in this car so I will need to push the Transbrake button to select reverse

RacingRicki 12-22-2013 08:03 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
+12VDC: connect to main power supply terminal
Trans: Goes to trans brake solenoid.
SFO: This is a a multi function programmable terminal. Can be used for starting line enhancer or some other use like line lock. See the manual.
T.Stop:connect to throttle stop solonide
Shift: connect to shift solinoide
GND: Connect to main earth point on chassis
PB 1: Goes to the button that you will use to engage the trans brake.
PB 2: Probably don't need this one.
Tap PB : Allows you to use a button to take time out or put time into the delay or throttle stop during the run (advanced feature).
L L PB : Connect to the line lock button if you plan to use the line lock output of the box (one of the SFO functions). This is also used to arm the data log function of the box even if you don't plan to use the line lock output.
Tach : connect to Grey on MSD Ignition

NOTE: It may be illegal to have the tach wire connected to this box. You may not have such a rule.

Yes you will have to push the trans brake button to engage reverse. Or you can have a separate button for that if you wish.

rodrocket 12-25-2013 05:18 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingRicki (Post 413515)
+12VDC: connect to main power supply terminal
Trans: Goes to trans brake solenoid.
SFO: This is a a multi function programmable terminal. Can be used for starting line enhancer or some other use like line lock. See the manual.
T.Stop:connect to throttle stop solonide
Shift: connect to shift solinoide
GND: Connect to main earth point on chassis
PB 1: Goes to the button that you will use to engage the trans brake.
PB 2: Probably don't need this one.
Tap PB : Allows you to use a button to take time out or put time into the delay or throttle stop during the run (advanced feature).
L L PB : Connect to the line lock button if you plan to use the line lock output of the box (one of the SFO functions). This is also used to arm the data log function of the box even if you don't plan to use the line lock output.
Tach : connect to Grey on MSD Ignition

NOTE: It may be illegal to have the tach wire connected to this box. You may not have such a rule.

Yes you will have to push the trans brake button to engage reverse. Or you can have a separate button for that if you wish.

thanks for that Ricki

thanks for the input guys, much appreciated

I am concerned about connecting the Line Loc to the delay box as I am concerned about its operation when I push the Transbrake Button when I select reverse, if my foot is on the brake & I select reverse then push the trans brake button will it lock the front brakes on ???

here is a much similar drawing
https://dl.dropboxusercontent....0Wiring%20Layout.pdf

I believe I have it all correct, only need to confirm the shock trigger wire ( relay or not )

I have deleted all the other wiring from the drawing & included the delay box

RacingRicki 12-26-2013 12:37 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
The line lock doesn't activate when you press the trans brake push button. It only activates when you push the line lock button. BTW. All this info is in the manual.

rodrocket 12-26-2013 01:33 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Thanks Ricki

Wiring is not my strong point

Regards
Rod

rodrocket 01-13-2014 07:17 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
do you guys run a switch in the main power supply wire running to the Mega 450 box or wire it to the main power supply & let the Master Disconnect switch shut the box down

is there any advantage to run a seperate switch to shut the Delay Box down with the engine running ect to re-set the box

regards
Rod

RacingRicki 02-06-2014 12:56 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
I like to have the delay box on its own switch so that I can reset it if need be. I have inadvertently triggered the trans brake switch after the burnout and needed to reset the box.

Also I have had situations where I triggered and released the trans brake switch on the line after the starter halted racing for cleanup or something. I was able to reset the box easily to make sure everything was set.

rodrocket 02-06-2014 01:15 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RacingRicki (Post 419423)
I like to have the delay box on its own switch so that I can reset it if need be. I have inadvertently triggered the trans brake switch after the burnout and needed to reset the box.

Also I have had situations where I triggered and released the trans brake switch on the line after the starter halted racing for cleanup or something. I was able to reset the box easily to make sure everything was set.

thanks for that Ricki

am I right in thinking that if I put a switch in the main power feed to the Mega 450, if I hit the transbake & release it to early I can just flick the main power off & back on & the box will still retain all its setting to the Throttle Stop

regards
Rod

RacingRicki 02-06-2014 09:49 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
That's correct.

rodrocket 02-06-2014 08:36 PM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
Ricki

just finishing this wiring off now

on the SFO output of the box were I need to run the activator wire for the shoc controller do I attach the wire for the Line Loc there as well

regards
Rod

RacingRicki 02-07-2014 01:12 AM

Re: Mega 450 Wiring Help
 
The SFO can only be used for one function. You program what function you want it to be and that's it. If you wire both things to it they will both be activated at the same time. If you are going to used it for the shock controller just wire your line lock separately not through the mega 450.


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