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Kevin Panzino 06-01-2014 02:54 PM

Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Jeez 'oh Pete I don't know how Schumacher stays in business, let alone makes enough money to fund fuel teams... I cant get any of their junk Made in China communist piece of garbage battery chargers to last more than a year...

I am not interested in 16 volt stuff, I'm 12volt. Does ANYONE still make a good old fashioned, heavy, transformer-based, (not solid state) Made in the USA battery charger ???

At this point I'm ready to buy an old, used Lester charger on Ebay.. I'm sure it will last forever...

Alan Nyhus 06-01-2014 03:27 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Interacter chargers are made in the USA and have a long history of reliability.
http://interacter.com/

Also, take a look at Rizk National Industries for solid USA made chargers:
http://usabatterychargers.com/

Hope this helps. -Al

Paul Precht 06-01-2014 03:46 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
I bought my charger used off a friend for 10 dollars back in 1970, still use it for everything except the motorcycle. You're better off buying a rusty old charger at a garage sale than anything new.

1320racer 06-01-2014 03:50 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino (Post 433418)
J Does ANYONE still make a good old fashioned, heavy, transformer-based, (not solid state) Made in the USA batter charger ???

http://associatedequip.com/#all

just don't bitch about the price.;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino (Post 433418)
I cant get any of their junk Made in China communist piece of garbage battery chargers to last more than a year...

This Schumacher wheel charger

http://www.batterychargers.com...ductName=94026502AFD

has lasted 2 years and is still going.

slingshot 06-01-2014 05:22 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/4492298053.html

http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/pts/4492298053.html


the old clunkers just keep on going and going and going

VanPelt 06-01-2014 06:34 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Ditto on the charger. the timer on mine went out pretty early on. It's nothing compared to old fashioned chargers. I was hoping it would be a good one but alas nope.





Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Panzino (Post 433418)
Jeez 'oh Pete I don't know how Schumacher stays in business, let alone makes enough money to fund fuel teams... I cant get any of their junk Made in China communist piece of garbage battery chargers to last more than a year...

I am not interested in 16 volt stuff, I'm 12volt. Does ANYONE still make a good old fashioned, heavy, transformer-based, (not solid state) Made in the USA batter charger ???

Ar this point I'm ready to buy an old, used Lester charger on Ebay.. I'm sure it will last forever...


Rich Biebel 06-01-2014 07:43 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
I have 2 chargers.....One is an old Sears.... I just fixed it as the input AC cord broke.....Transformer....rectifier...and one small circuit board and some switches.......sticker inside said 1994.....20 years old and works perfect...I use it all the time and it sits on my racecar all the time, continuously all year!


I also have a Schumacher new type and rarely use it......don't trust it and can't stand it...Fans.....whizzers...lights.....says the battery is charged and I know it's not....It lies....LOL

Both are small units with a 10-20 amp output....automatic charger-maintainers

Ed Wright 06-01-2014 08:53 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Talking 12 volt chargers?

Rick Kolber 06-01-2014 10:44 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
I have a 10amp Schauer battery charger that I bought back in '78. Still works great, just slow charging for 2 Optima batteries. Was thinking of stepping up to a 20 or 30amp but I know the Optimas like a slow charge. Any suggestions? And by the way it was made in the USA even though at the time we only made junk and Japan supposedly built the good stuff.

Patric Fox 06-01-2014 11:57 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
I had a small Associated charger that worked good and I liked, but it broke twice inside my trailer towing to the races. I fixed it once, and when it broke again , it was done. I got a XS charger now that does 12v and 16 v and has worked perfectly for three years now.

SC321X 06-02-2014 10:45 AM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
You need a charger that is set up for continuous 40 amps. the Schumacher chargers that are inexpensive won't charge continuously at 40 or 50 amps. ( the cheap ones only charge at 40 - 50 amps about 5 minutes before kickin out) I have 2 optima batteries and I use a black and decker charger that is set up to charge continuously at 40 amps and reducing as needed.The Optima battery guy told me to charge them hard. Optima has their own chargers available now and they hit the batteries pretty hard. He said don't trickle charge them give um some juice. I hope this helps. Dave.

njk53 06-02-2014 10:47 AM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
I have an old Montgomery Ward 12 volt battery charger that was given to me used in the early 80's and it still going strong. Gauge and charge light still work.

As far as the Chinese Made chargers, it is not the Chinese fault that the chargers made there are junk, it is the importing company in the United States fault for the poor quality. They are the ones who spec. out the parts and materials they use in the charger. The more cheap crap they can put in the charger, the cheaper they can sell it, and the more money they make because of the volumes they sell due to low cost.

Believe it or not I have seen some quality stuff come out of China but, it costs as much as something made in the USA. You get what you pay for!!

Jody Lang 06-02-2014 11:13 AM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SC321X (Post 433566)
You need a charger that is set up for continuous 40 amps. the Schumacher chargers that are inexpensive won't charge continuously at 40 or 50 amps. ( the cheap ones only charge at 40 - 50 amps about 5 minutes before kickin out) I have 2 optima batteries and I use a black and decker charger that is set up to charge continuously at 40 amps and reducing as needed.The Optima battery guy told me to charge them hard. Optima has their own chargers available now and they hit the batteries pretty hard. He said don't trickle charge them give um some juice. I hope this helps. Dave.


Weird. That's exactly opposite of what I've been told. Their high buck charger only charges at 12 amps.

Peter Ash 06-02-2014 12:02 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jody Lang (Post 433572)
Weird. That's exactly opposite of what I've been told. Their high buck charger only charges at 12 amps.

Jody


I believe the charge rate is voltage and temperature sensitive!

http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us...care/charging/

YELLOWTOP® Type: D51 & D51R - D35DS46B24R - D75/25 - D34D34/78 - D27F
These batteries are dual-purpose. They are designed for engine start and cyclic applications and for use in vehicles with large accessory loads.
Recommended charging information:

Alternator:
  • 13.65 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit.
Battery Charger:
  • 13.8 to 15.0 volts, 10 amps maximum, approximately for 6-12 hours.
Cyclic Applications:
  • 14.7 volts, no current limit as long as battery temperature remains below 125°F (51.7°C). When current falls below 1 amp, finish with 2 amp constant current for 1 hour.
Rapid Recharge:
  • Maximum voltage 15.6 volts (regulated), no current limit as long as battery temperature remains below 125°F (51.7°C). Charge until current drops below 1 amp.

Kevin Panzino 06-02-2014 12:08 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Great info gents. And thank you Alan, those Rizk are exactly what I was looking for. I just ordered the p160. Looks to be a very nice piece, and made old school solid. I may also buy one of their smaller ones as well for aroung the shop.

Jody Lang 06-02-2014 03:36 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Ash (Post 433583)
Jody


I believe the charge rate is voltage and temperature sensitive!

http://www.optimabatteries.com/en-us...care/charging/

YELLOWTOP® Type: D51 & D51R - D35DS46B24R - D75/25 - D34D34/78 - D27F
These batteries are dual-purpose. They are designed for engine start and cyclic applications and for use in vehicles with large accessory loads.
Recommended charging information:

Alternator:
  • 13.65 to 15.0 volts, no amperage limit.
Battery Charger:
  • 13.8 to 15.0 volts, 10 amps maximum, approximately for 6-12 hours.
Cyclic Applications:
  • 14.7 volts, no current limit as long as battery temperature remains below 125°F (51.7°C). When current falls below 1 amp, finish with 2 amp constant current for 1 hour.
Rapid Recharge:
  • Maximum voltage 15.6 volts (regulated), no current limit as long as battery temperature remains below 125°F (51.7°C). Charge until current drops below 1 amp.

Good info !!!

Rick Kolber 06-02-2014 09:39 PM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
THANKS for the info Peter. This gives me an ideas to what I need to do, now just to find the right charger.

fordteacherguy 06-05-2014 12:11 AM

Re: Sick and Tired of POS Chinese Chargers
 
Bought a Schumacher automatic pro series (computer controlled charging) and there was a sprinkle of rain that wetted the charger and it went nuts and has never been the same again. Buy a old school type charger with a regular rectifier and no circuit boards. I'm on charger #2 and just purchased a Schumacher Farm and Ranch model that looks like old school type construction/ no touch buttons or computed charging, just a plain ole charger. $119 Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Schumacher-SE-.../dp/B00030BFO2


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