S&W Anti roll bar one more time.
 

A while back there was a thread on here about the ARB that S&W makes for 82-02 Camaro and Firebirds. Before I spend 500 plus shipping on one. Has anyone had a problem getting through tech with one recently? I have heard that they are now legal. Can anyone confirm this? Was planning on asking this weekend at Gateway. But could not get away from work to go.

Thanks
Rob

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Anti rollbars in stock have been acceptable for some time now.But, if you setup your rear suspension right, you shouldn't need one. Not a believer in anti-rollbars or air bags for these cars.

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As far as I know, if it's bolt in it is legal. If it requires welding it is illegal. If it is bolted to something that has been welded to the frame, then it is questionable.

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One of the fastest LT1 Camaros in the land runs this S&W anti-rollbar setup.

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Does anyone in tech even look underneath cars anymore??

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How is that upper cross bar fastened to the frame, or subframe I guess I should say?

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On the previous thread a number of the division tech directors weighed in on this very set up. Before purchasing one for your stocker I would suggest you contact your divisions tech director for their thoughts. I will say that if set up properly nothing more than the factory installed sway bar is necessary to make these cars work

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I agree Doug!!! But, let's not forget the correct shocks, springs and solidly maintaining pinion angle throughout the launch. I set these cars up like a 3-link. Shooting for zero anti-squat. I will soon be testing my new torque arm setup. If it works to my satisfaction I'll post some pictures.

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The '97 Firebird I raced in stock had no anti roll bar. Never needed it. Pretty much always hooked well and went straight with no chassis twist. Very hard leaving car, front end in the air every run.

Modified stock torque arm.....bolt on traction bars.

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This talks about welding pads?
This is a Stocker?

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Mark, Mark, Mark.................

First hidden fuel cells and now welded traction devices..........

Remember when it used to be testing and gaining knowledge.......

Now it's wheelie bars, 4 links and a line of credit............

When will it end.......

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Yes to both questions.

Just read the older post on this subject. And from what I gather from the NHRA tech's comments something like this would be acceptable in a stocker. Ohhhhhh!!! this is one of those insane Camaros allowed to run stock. A tab welded to the housing is acceptable???

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Maybe the rules have changed since I did my Firebird but I would say the stuff shown on here is illegal. My understanding is the anti-roll bar must be bolted on to the factory holes in the subframe along with a clamp around the rear housing. Welding of tabs and such is illegal.

I used the bolt on Spohn performance one and it works great and legal. Like I said, maybe the rules have changed but it was fairly clear then....

Tim

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It's just how you interrupt you the rulebook (in an attempt to take full advantage of the rules) and tech personal that don't know or enforce the rules. The rule book is vague and unclear on a lot of its content. When you try to get clarification and call divisional techs in the country and get different answers depending on who answers the phone. So this is the end result.

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Wow ! What else can you weld in, in Stock now?
Ladder bars? 4 links?

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That last picture must be of a COPO Camaro since it appears to also have a Ford 9" rear end. The COPO's do have a 4-Link.

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Unless those tech guys rewrote their posts they seemed to all have agreed they did not like what they saw. Like I said before you the time and mo ey to put this in ask them directly

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I agree,i just put a real fat sway bar on mine and it worked great. Real simple and the car left nice and square

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I have not been able to get a positive answer on this from NHRA.. So I am going to put a regular sway bar in it. I know thats legal. LOL Thanks for trying to help me guys.