CLASS RACER FORUM

CLASS RACER FORUM (https://classracer.com/classforum/index.php)
-   Support Tech (https://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=52)
-   -   Daily Driver oil (https://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=55192)

SSGN 10-06-2014 12:18 PM

Daily Driver oil
 
What is everyone using for daily driver oil? I just purchased a new chev truck and it recommends dexos and I have always used a dino oil and changed often but most companies for this requirement are a full synthetic. All 3 of my DD's use 5w/30. Thanks in advance for the advice

Kevin

cad 10-06-2014 01:11 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Dexos is a fancy label...here is the link for all of the oil/brands that are certified.
I use the recommended type in our daily drivers...
http://www.centerforqa.com/gm/licens...dexos-products

SSDiv6 10-06-2014 01:17 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SSGN (Post 448715)
What is everyone using for daily driver oil? I just purchased a new chev truck and it recommends dexos and I have always used a dino oil and changed often but most companies for this requirement are a full synthetic. All 3 of my DD's use 5w/30. Thanks in advance for the advice

Kevin

Dexos is just a specification from GM. They have licensed many oil companies to put the Dexos label on the container after paying GM a hefty royalty.

I recommend and use Pennzoil Platinum Synthetic for all my vehicles; it happens to meet the Dexos requirements from GM.

Dave Turner 10-06-2014 04:01 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Kevin, I ran my 2003 F250 6.0l to 425,000k on Royal Purple 15W40 and the current 2011 F250 6.2l has seen almost 70,000k running on RP 5w20 since I bought it at 125,000.

(....besides, we sell the stuff ;))

Ed Wright 10-06-2014 05:22 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Hard to beat Mobile1.

Rat Raceway 10-06-2014 05:25 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Mobile 1 here as well.

I have had two different motor builders say they like the way things look inside after Mobile 1 has been exclusively run.

Tom Moock 10-06-2014 05:51 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Kevin, you have 20,000 miles to pick a brand of oil, gm gives you 4 free oil changes when you buy a new truck. Tom

Tim H 10-06-2014 07:58 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Turner (Post 448749)
Kevin, I ran my 2003 F250 6.0l to 425,000k on Royal Purple 15W40 and the current 2011 F250 6.2l has seen almost 70,000k running on RP 5w20 since I bought it at 125,000.



(....besides, we sell the stuff ;))

Dave, I used to sell the stuff when I worked for NAPA and I recall the back of the bottle stating in fine print that it should not be used in 2005 or maybe 2008 and newer vehicles. Has that changed ? My daily driver vehicles all use Valvoline.

Myron Piatek 10-06-2014 09:02 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
I've seen the 2007 and newer recommendation on some Amsoil oils for diesel applications. I believe it was the extra zinc & phosphorous, that the older diesel oils had, that was removed for the newer diesels because it affected their newer style catalytic converters in a negative way. I don't know if any similar restrictions exist for newer gas engines.

Dave Turner 10-06-2014 09:12 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim H (Post 448781)
Dave, I used to sell the stuff when I worked for NAPA and I recall the back of the bottle stating in fine print that it should not be used in 2005 or maybe 2008 and newer vehicles. Has that changed ? My daily driver vehicles all use Valvoline.

Their new "SAE" line of oil addresses that issue Tim. They retained the Synerlec additive in the "HPS" offering for older applications....and charge slightly more for it.

njk53 10-07-2014 10:57 AM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Dexos is a GM oil requirement. It can be either full synthetic or semi-synthetic. See the article below it pretty much explains what the deal is: Looks like a money grab and a lot of baloney to me. Mobil 1 met the Dexos standard before the Dexos name came about..

http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/178

Dean Feiock 10-08-2014 12:03 AM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
I normally do not jump into these types of conversations, but here goes. Take this for what its worth or not. I could just be getting too old to know better.

I have been working in a dealership for over 25 years. My current dealership is multi-line. We have GM, Nissan, and Chrysler.

First, I can tell you without question, Nissan and Chrysler both require verifiable documentation on oil changes for warranty. Hand written shop orders and some scattered receipts DO NOT count. I cannot comment on GM, but I can find out if needed. I have had two bad Chrysler engines and one bad Nissan engine in the last twelve months that were turned down due to lack of provable maintenance.

Second, I am a life long Chrysler tech and a newbie Nissan tech. We have never really had oil issues. But I watch the our GM techs pull engines out on a weekly basis to put in new pistons and rings. GM most certainly has oil issues, and it's always the ring pack stuck in the groove. Walk into any GM dealership and the odds are they are going to have an engine out putting pistons and rings in it. GM switched it's oil requirements right as their oil issues started to get severe. They realized a little to late that with the super light ring tension they are running, they needed better and lighter oil.

Third, I never seem to understand why using a manufacture specified oil seems so foreign to some. If it's good enough for the manufacturer, and required by the manufacturer during warranty repairs, how bad can it be? Some say price is an issue which I find hard to believe, after all if you can afford $60k for a truck the oil shouldn't be an issue should it?

Greg Barsamian 10-13-2014 06:57 AM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
http://www.gmdexos.com/index.aspx

tim worner 10-13-2014 09:12 AM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
I would use the oils that Support our sport. Catrol Lucas Amaile all support us why not support them?

SSGN 10-13-2014 03:36 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Thanks for the input. As I stated I have always used Dino oils but they just don't measure up for the new standards. It appears there is no new technology in dino oils. I have always used Kendal or Brad Penn and have been very happy with these products. I used the Penn racing oil in my Buicks and will be using this oil in my daily drivers. Thanks again

http://www.amref.com/CMSFiles/File/b...FSGF_MO_PB.pdf

Kevin

Greg Barsamian 10-13-2014 07:26 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
http://www.valvoline.com/pdf/maxlife.pdf

Check out the entire line of products from Valvoline:
http://www.valvoline.com/products/consumer-products/

ChevyII 10-13-2014 11:24 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Nobody's mentioned Shell Rotella 15-40W for GM Diesels. Have used them in all my diesel trucks and never had an issue. Are the newer trucks requiring something different?

Will be looking at Shell Rotella synthetic for the winter. Any other recommendations? This is a 2007 GM Duramax. LBZ motor.

Thanks,

Mike

SSGN 10-14-2014 09:24 AM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Not sure on the diesel side but all manufacturers are going to lighter oils for pump ability and deposit issues.

Kevin

Isaac Zane 10-14-2014 01:10 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
I use Mobil 1 in everything that I run. From the 70's push mower(FIL gave it to me in 1981), the Dixie Chopper rider, my 139K miles 2003 Harley Electra Glide, 2002 GMC Sonoma 150K, 2013 Buick Lacrosse, and of course the 73 Buick Apollo J/SA that had managed to win a few races with my brother at the wheel. My old 1992 Chevy half ton P/U that towed it back and forth across the country with it's 305 that had over 200K+ miles on it with nothing more than two alternator changes.

Check out the videos taken here at Mobil's (ExxonMobil now) research facility.
http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...hetic_Oil.aspx

Then there was that BMW that we ran for over 1 million miles a few years back with 7,500 mile oil changes.
And of course I would recommend Delvac 1 for you diesel fans!

Pvt Parts 10-14-2014 10:35 PM

Re: Daily Driver oil
 
Mobile 1 0w40 Mercedes


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:47 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.