Where did the FWD stockers go?
 

I had a lot of time to kill today and was looking in the Drag Race Central archives. The earliest info started at 1998. I was looking at the qualifying and class winners in stock eliminator specifically the front wheel drive cars. I always enjoyed watching the FWD cars as well as lower classed cars. It seems now there are not a lot of FWD cars left. Some of the FWD cars I saw entered at Indy since 1998 were: Rivera's, Aries wagons, Sundance's, Delta's, Charger's, Escort's, Citation's, Cavalier's. Sunbird's, PT Cruisers, Neon's, and Omni's. I remember my first trip to Indy 15 or so years ago I saw a Dodge Omni driving to the track with decals and NHRA number on the window and a tag on the rear. The coolest has to be Art's mini van. Does anyone have any info or stories about these cars? I sure hope they are still around and didn't get crushed and turned into beer cans.

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My Riviera went to North Carolina, my Lynx went to Illinois, my Escort went to Michigan, and my Omni went to California. I think that's all I had.

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There are still some of use out there also the mini van was Bill Howell not Arts

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Jim Wahl races H/SA, Mark Poole races F/SA, Mark Yacavone helped build a Dfs with Alex Kadar, Bill O Conner still going strong after all these years....and of course that Gary Hampton guy races Dfs also. In D3 Ron Seibenick has at least 2 FWD in competition and Steve Pothole parked his FWD when he went Competition Elminator racing. Of course my favorite of all time was Brian Olsons Ford Escort.....Escort Service....

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How many FWD combos never were built because they aren't even in the Classification Guide? Ford, for example, has had no legal FWD cars since the 1997 model year (meaning both weight and engine specs). Dodge and Chrysler have nothing since 2004, not even the Dart used in Pro Stock. Chevrolet is the most recent, with the 2008 Cobalt, and that is already eight years old.

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Mr. Jackson, do you have something against beer cans? I haven't hoisted one recently, but I think they're made from aluminum. Jeff T. would know probably.

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I sold my Charger to Neil Smedley. Angelo Phillips sold his Charger to Stan Kopetka in Div 5. He Still races it. Mine I do do believe is parked for ?....

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Even more rare the FWD Super Stockers! I think I'm the only one left remotely active (Neon). Art Leong has his car (Neon) for sale, Ron Seibenick (Calais) has one that he's only had out a couple times in the last few years, Carl Mosier also had one a few years ago (Sunfire) that he ran IHRA and that's all I'm aware of in the last 5+ years.

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I still have my DF/S Turismo, although it's been resting in Billy Nees's shop for several years. It's for sale. http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=34200

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Thanks for the chuckle Mr Derby City, but I am curious as to why Jim and Mark's class designations were listed with all caps, but Mark/Alex and mine weren't listed as DF/S? Haha

I have a few more for this thread:
1. Larry Dowty raced a Pontiac Grand Am in Super Stock, but I think it's either sold, or for sale.
2. Randy Hyman raced a Citation Stocker, but sold it and has been racing a Chevy Truck for about 2yrs.
3. Stan Kopejtka, also has/had an Aries Stocker.
4. I don't remember the guys name, but I faced (and got dusted by) a Dodge Daytona Turbo, back in the early 2000's when my combo was factored too hard (B&CF/SA). That car was street legal, and had Colorado plates on it to prove it.
5. Gary Gokey has his turbo Dodge Omni still, and he might bring it back out of storage, but I am not sure?
6. Lisa Stephenson has her Olds Delta 88 Stocker, but I think it's for sale too....

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Why Gary, isn't it obvious . They are now racing......Big Boy cars ...

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how much under the index would you think this car will run? thanks ron

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I have Mr Pooles car

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All information about the car is listed in the classified ad, except Billy Nees built a new header for it a few years ago. Needs testing.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=34200

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So when Alex and I beat those "Big Boy cars" (and we will), then what will that make our cars (or all other FWD active race cars for that matter)? I know, how about the Little Boy Cars That Did (although neither Alex or I are little) or the David who slayed Goliath Cars????

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Gary last year at the Mission Raceway points meet, I made it to the 3rd round in my DF/S wagon and I was running more than a tenth over my index. And no one red lit against me.

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winners ...

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I set the pole at Virginia motorsports last year with Denis Chapmans BF/S car . Thanks again Denis ...

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Anytime Ken

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My point made Shawn. All the best to you this year too, and to All FWD STOCK/SUPER STOCK RACERS, LET'S MAKE 2016 A YEAR OF GREATNESS!!!!

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It completely slipped my mind that I have a dog in this fight. I ran a bone-stock 1982 Dodge Aries sedan in Y/SA as a one-shot deal at the 1982 NHRA WCS points race at Englishtown. The car ran at least a second over the index and I went out against Dave LeBrun in round one. I believe the car was pictured in the July 1982 issue of SS&DI.

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Number 4 Was. Eric Georges from highlands ranch Colorado .

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Don't forget the Cadillac I ran for 18 years and held The AF/SA ,BF/SA, CF/SA, and DF/SA records for years! Qualified #1 at Indy until the last Q session in 1989 I believe and won class at Indy in '89 and '90 against those tough under factored Oldsmobiles! The Caddy is parked in TN. and the Spirit that I got from Artie was sold right after I bought the Volare' from George Wieduch and was completely redone but has been parked for several years. That car is still deadly. Both the Caddy and the Spirit were Giant Killers, just ask Bob Reed. I still have my SRT4 Neon and could be raced tomorrow if I wanted to. Had lots of fun times with those "little boy cars"! And that's what its about, right? Jim

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If my memory is correct the Stephenson family FWD was the former Tom Kasch car. Appropriately named The GIANT KILLER it was driven by numerous family members and one Kyle Riley. The car was sold a few years ago and the last that I heard was it has been sitting with a broken trans...Of course only 1 racer has won a National Event in a FWD and that racer is......Our very own race promoter/ torque converter technician Mark "teddy" Yacavone.

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1986 summer nationals race finished on a monday.

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http://i.imgur.com/HQomPe8.jpg?1

Thanks to an eBay seller, I was able to obtain a picture of the page in SS&DI. This car probably predates any other FWD car mentioned in this thread.

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I have to have more runs in a FWD car than anyone, maybe 900.
Race a 80 Omni at the 83 nationals

a Paul Rossi Dodge Charger in 84 & 85
"" "" "" 600 86 & 87

got a Olds deal in 88, the Delta 88 that Kyle Riley bought from us , he sold it to the Stephenson and now John Riley in Fla has it
Then got a OLDs Toronado in 90 ,Tony our son ran the 88 in 92 & 94
Last raced the Toronado in 2003 sold to Mike { puff daddy] Carr in Ohio he still has it.

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John bought one of my race125 transmissions from the Caddy last year and is preparing to bring the car out soon I think. Jim

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Larry Dowty either sold or scrapped his S/S FWD Quad 4 Pontiac Grand Am several years ago. Larry then built a 94 or 95 302 Mustang for, I believe, O/SA. He ran that for a while, sold it, and I havent seen him for a few years now.

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hi rory i did sell the quad 4 to a guy in ohio and the mustang went to a guy in vegas still watch all the post for fun no dog in the fight anymore
larry dowty

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Hi Tom I have you beat ( I think) I put 29 runs on my Superstocker in one test day. And was close to 20 in a day a few times with my FWD stockers. LOL
BTW The Superstock Neon is still for sale cheap I just can't do it anymore.

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Jim, PM sent.

Rick Thomason
GTOMayhem

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Thanks for the responses. I have always been curious about the cars. I assumed the transmissions would be the weak link although I don't remember ever seeing one break. Between Chrysler, ford, and GM who has the strongest FWD transmissions both auto and stick? Thanks, Don Jackson

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Going to jump into this FWD scene this year with both feet! Have a good car, just need to figure out how to drive it! Quite a bit different than leaving on the bumper in the wagon. It seems that a 14 second stocker is way harder to drive than the super stock car. Looking forward to some warm weather testing, -37 degrees last night with wind chill. Getting old fast!!

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No lie.
Alex had his 10.0 GTO out a couple weeks ago, after 7 years.
He said it was like driving a Cadillac down the boulevard , after driving the Monte.

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Harold Morgan, still runs his Escort mainly in the south and at IHRA tracks. I heard he was moving back to Ft Lauderdale from Georgia a while back

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He's got two of them!

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Where have all the Quad4 Calais's gone . That was a great combination !

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I still have the Achieva and Calais . Running the Achieva with a SOHC head at this time. Have a Super Stock Quad 4 engine on the engine stand, waiting for time on the dyno before putting it in the Calais.

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what years out of curiosity?