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fredjohnston 08-17-2016 09:08 PM

NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
I guess stockers can relocate shock mounts now? This is a pretty obvious thing for NHRA tech to miss...

http://s994.photobucket.com/user/AMX...ekkzo.jpg.html

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...psnujekkzo.jpg

MR DERBY CITY 08-17-2016 09:18 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
That's a good one right there Fred...

Jeff Teuton 08-17-2016 09:58 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
I guess they weren't straight up and down?

Mark Yacavone 08-17-2016 10:08 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Teuton (Post 511859)
I guess they weren't straight up and down?

How about on the wrong side of the spring?

Robert Simpson 08-18-2016 07:14 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Sad, I have a recent pic of a traditional SS with coil over conversion on the front? Who can you contact in NHRA for clarification of tech questions? I have had no luck on the couple I have sent. My questions had nothing to do about the above observation.

Bobby DiDomenico 08-18-2016 08:10 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Can you mount the shock in the stock location with Caltracs?
What does NHRA do on cars where the shocks were mounted differently depending on horsepower, like staggered shocks on high HP Mustangs vs same side of housing with low HP Mustangs?

https://www.yearone.com/Product/1962-74-nova/bg957

Have seen a bunch of cruise night cars with these installed to fit big tires on them.

Jerry Davis 08-18-2016 08:25 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
I ask NHRA this spring if I could move my shocks to the front of the axel because of wheelie bar installation that got in the way. I was told no! After a lot of work I did get them to nearly stock position.

Mike Pearson 08-18-2016 08:29 AM

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Just remember most of the tech guys are basically volunteers and get paid very little to do what the do. You can always protest someone if you see something that is illegal by the rules. Who Knows maybe tech caught the infraction and told the guy to have it fixed by the next race. You can always ask the owner of the car about an item such as this as well. I doubt that shock placement is helping the car run any faster.

Billy Nees 08-18-2016 08:32 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 511884)
I doubt that shock placement is helping the car run any faster.

You should ask somebody how that affects shock ratio.

Mike Pearson 08-18-2016 08:50 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 511885)
You should ask somebody how that affects shock ratio.

I actually ran my car with out the shocks on the rear one weekend. One of the shock mount broke on the trip to the track. I took both shocks off of the rear of the car. There was no difference in performance or handling. I was really surprised at that. It was a stick combo at that time

Bobby DiDomenico 08-18-2016 09:05 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 511886)
I actually ran my car with out the shocks on the rear one weekend. One of the shock mount broke on the trip to the track. I took both shocks off of the rear of the car. There was no difference in performance or handling. I was really surprised at that. It was a stick combo at that time

I could see that with stiff springs Mike, the shock isn't really dampening the spring movement. As to shock placement, when Tom Rix was running the Buick in Top Stock we were at a race and I heard IHRA told Monty Bogan to fix the shock mounts on the rear suspension of his Corvette. I told them it wasn't just the shock mounts that were beating all of us, it was the way underfactored engine!

Mike Pearson 08-18-2016 09:24 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 511888)
I could see that with stiff springs Mike, the shock isn't really dampening the spring movement. As to shock placement, when Tom Rix was running the Buick in Top Stock we were at a race and I heard IHRA told Monty Bogan to fix the shock mounts on the rear suspension of his Corvette. I told them it wasn't just the shock mounts that were beating all of us, it was the way underfactored engine!

It had mono leaf springs at the time. Now I have coil overs. Other than ease of working on the car and a little weight reduction there was no improvement when I installed the coil overs from the leaf springs.

Casey Miles 08-18-2016 08:48 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fredjohnston (Post 511849)
I guess stockers can relocate shock mounts now? This is a pretty obvious thing for NHRA tech to miss...

http://s994.photobucket.com/user/AMX...ekkzo.jpg.html

http://i994.photobucket.com/albums/a...psnujekkzo.jpg

Now that you asked about shock location, NHRA will say it's OK if you put them where ever you want! That way they don't even have to bend over to look under the cars at all. Where does stock mean stock any more. As long as he looks like the year it's declaring, it'll pass tech. Oh yeah, but don't let your seat belts go one day over 2 years.

Casey Miles
248H Stock?

James Perrone 08-19-2016 10:53 AM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Guys a tech man is more concerned about your safety equipment than anything else It's up to the driver to build and legal car. Now if it's brought to there attention they no. Shock clearence is tuff on a nova

Ron Ortiz 08-19-2016 12:00 PM

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Tech does it's job, safety first. Problem starts in Glendora, first with the AHFS Committee.

Seen the higher ups override a tech guy more than once, sometimes the show of favoritism is so obvious.

The people who are out there working at the track for *HRA do a great job, especially for the pay they get, and the bologna sandwiches.

Been there, done that.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA just doing what I'm told

Jim Wahl 08-19-2016 02:03 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Ortiz (Post 511997)
Tech does it's job, safety first. Problem starts in Glendora, first with the AHFS Committee.

Seen the higher ups override a tech guy more than once, sometimes the show of favoritism is so obvious.

The people who are out there working at the track for *HRA do a great job, especially for the pay they get, and the bologna sandwiches.

Been there, done that.

Ron Ortiz
U/SA just doing what I'm told

Amen Ron! Amen! Jim

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GUMP 08-19-2016 02:35 PM

Re: NHRA tech or lack thereof
 
They took a hard look at the front suspension on my COPO at Bristol. You can't expect them to cover every item on every car at every race. But, if things are pointed out to them, I doubt they would ignore the issue.


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