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David Lee 05-04-2018 12:48 AM

Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Trying to decide who front disk brake kit for my 67 cuda. Which one would you use?

gtaa 05-04-2018 01:12 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Lamb

GTX JOHN 05-04-2018 08:01 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
We have run most of the aftermarket brakes with about equal
success on our A Body Mopar stuff.

Chris DeGidio 05-04-2018 09:02 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I used Wilwood and they work great.

MR DERBY CITY 05-04-2018 01:39 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Anything but Aerospace.....Lamb is the Absolute best $$ can buy BUT is not in everyone’s budget....

Ed Wright 05-04-2018 04:20 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 562348)
Anything but Aerospace.....Lamb is the Absolute best $$ can buy BUT is not in everyone’s budget....

I have had no issues with Areospace.

Lee Valentine 05-04-2018 06:01 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I also have had no problems with aerospace, but just installed the new strange stainless steel floating rotors and calipers on my Son's stocker and they are awesome.

Bob Gullett 05-04-2018 07:34 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I ran the Aerospace brakes for a couple years and fought excessive brake pedal travel. Aerospace tech support (if you can call it that) told me I didn’t know what I was doing. It wasn’t until I just about crashed my car with aerospace brakes I knew it was time to change. Switched to Lambs and never had an issue since. And with them telling me I didn’t know what I was doing? Was a government licensed mechanic in Canada for almost 35 years.

HawkBrosMav 05-04-2018 08:02 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
only about a 3100 lbs car or lighter but we've run Aerospace on everything.. no issues. Willwood as well

Lamb stuff is awesome, if it's in the budget nothing compares.

MR DERBY CITY 05-04-2018 09:22 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
[QUOTE=Ed Wright;562358]I have had no issues with Areospace.[/QUOTE

Ed, ....
..See Bob Gullets post below yours....If you have had no issues consider yourself very fortunate....I will take my chances drinking Flint, Michigan tap water before I drive a race car with Aerospace brakes.....

Dyno 05-04-2018 09:42 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Mark Williams on my 68 SS/AH Barracuda. Used M/W on 3 other race cars also, never a problem.

CMcAllister 05-04-2018 10:22 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Given those choices, Strange. All day long.

George Fitzpatrick 05-05-2018 07:00 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Lamb big bucks, but worth it. Install them and never worry about brakes again.

Ed Wright 05-05-2018 08:14 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
[QUOTE=MR DERBY CITY;562386]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 562358)
I have had no issues with Areospace.[/QUOTE

Ed, ....
..See Bob Gullets post below yours....If you have had no issues consider yourself very fortunate....I will take my chances drinking Flint, Michigan tap water before I drive a race car with Aerospace brakes.....

Might be the installer, not the parts. Excessive pedal travel, ask and competent automotive technician, is caliper/rotor alignment/cylinder sizing. Too small master cylinder bore = excessive pedal travel. Caliper not square with the rotor = excessive pedal travel. DIY guys usually need a dummy proof install pkg. My car stops great, with no excessive pedal travel. Has for about 8 years now.

Mark Markow 05-05-2018 08:15 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
lamb or mark Williams would be first choice if price doesn't matter
strange second. great product reasonable price
willwood third
anything but aerospace 4th
stuff you find at a swap meet 5th
and last place . please don't buy aerospace.

MR DERBY CITY 05-05-2018 08:23 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
[QUOTE=Ed Wright;562398]
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 562386)

Might be the installer, not the parts. Excessive pedal travel, ask and competent automotive technician, is caliper/rotor alignment/cylinder sizing. Too small master cylinder bore = excessive pedal travel. Caliper not square with the rotor = excessive pedal travel. DIY guys usually need a dummy proof install pkg. My car stops great, with no excessive pedal travel. Has for about 8 years now.

The same installer, Bob Gullet,...installed the LAMB brakes with far greater results. I believe Mark Markow sums it up best....

Ed Wright 05-05-2018 09:50 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Pedal travel is not the brand. SMH
Simple hydraulics. Some seem to need a simple take it all out of a box & bolt it on kit.

CMcAllister 05-05-2018 02:31 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
It should be a simple calculation of piston area and master cylinder bore. But I've seen more than one car with Aerospace kits that should have worked, but didn't. Could not get a pedal, even with a big bore master, until a Lamb master was installed.

And I've seen guys get kits from Wilwood with calipers that had small bores for some reason (ordered wrong part# maybe) and the balance would be all out of whack. Strange has always been plug and play.

Ed Wright 05-05-2018 09:10 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Installed mine back in 2010, before I closed my shop. I don't know what another brand could do, that these do not. No pedal is not the brand. Wrong pedal ratio, or master cylinder bore. I was warned once about "smoking all 4 tires at the finish line." Didn't realize I locked them up. Wheels roll freely, good pedal, plenty of breaking power.
What else is there?
Maybe they changed something.

HandOverFist 05-05-2018 10:21 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I'll have to concur with Ed...Aerospace being used on three different cars and no problems over the years. I would not expect any problems out of the other brands as well.

Phillip marvetz 05-06-2018 01:51 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I have wilwoods on 3 cars and never a issue. Aerospace on one car and always had to pump the pedal once at the end of a run to get anything.

Ed Wright 05-06-2018 08:39 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phillip marvetz (Post 562454)
I have wilwoods on 3 cars and never a issue. Aerospace on one car and always had to pump the pedal once at the end of a run to get anything.

Wrong bore size master cylinder, or need bled correctly. I have even seen calipers installed with the bleeder NOT at the very top. How do they bleed all the air out? LOL

Rsmith38 05-06-2018 09:29 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
when I built the Comanche nobody listed front disks for it.
I contacted aerospace and they said to send them a spindle and they could build the mounting plate (everything else is 5"X4 1/2 and available). ended up charging me $65 extra over the regular kits - and they have been on for 14 years. Very satisfied with the brakes and the customer service. Works for me.
1051 R/SA

MR DERBY CITY 05-06-2018 11:10 AM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Everyone shoots for a nice FIRM pedal but I haven’t seen one post regarding DRAG......Absolutely NO drag with the Lamb setup....Aerospace not so much, but they do supply you with washers to shim their setup....

Tom Goldman 05-06-2018 01:49 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
The big knock on Aerospace is not so much how they work, They use the same pads and piston sizes as every other manufacturer .
The real issue is quality control and component packaging.
I've installed every other brand out there for customers and not once did I need to re drill holes, or counter sink them or run to the bolt bin for correct hardware . ....not the case with Areospace.
Caliper alignment also an issue with them witch causes soft ,spongy pedal feel.
all correctable issues ,but I'll take Strange ,MW Lamb or Willwood over them any day.

randy wilson 05-08-2018 05:05 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 562476)
Everyone shoots for a nice FIRM pedal but I haven’t seen one post regarding DRAG......Absolutely NO drag with the Lamb setup....Aerospace not so much, but they do supply you with washers to shim their setup....

I had aerospace on our cobalt, and the drag was tremendous. If we bring it back out, I’ll put Lamb brakes all the way around. They drag so bad when he’d pull into the pits and clutch the car, it’d slide both fronts.

Mike Pearson 05-08-2018 05:16 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
I am with Ed on this one. I have had Aerospace on my car for quite a few years. They have worked flawlessly. There is absolutely no drag. I can spin my fronts and they are very free. I also have a nice firm pedal and don't have to do any pumps of the pedal.

One thing that will cause drag Is if you are heavy on the brakes at the finish line it will wear the brake pads on a skew and they will drag like crazy. A nice soft touch on the pedal and the pads will wear evenly. I have installed Aerospace brakes on several cars with excellent results. They are a good company with good people and customer service.
Now if they aren't installed properly then that could be the problem.

Nick_Siebert 05-09-2018 04:08 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
In my younger years all I looked at was price, so I converted my Stock Eliminator car at the time over from factory disc brakes, to Aerospace because they were cheaper than their competitors. They looked pretty, but that was about all they provided, dragged terrible, pedal sucked, wore pads, just a complete nightmare.

Sent them back to Aerospace multiple times just to have them tell me I installed them wrong. Finally bought a Strange kit, simply unbolted the Aerospace and bolted up the Strange, and all my problems disappeared.

Some say they have had zero problems with Aerospace, but I think you will find most have been unsatisfied. Just spend a little more and buy good parts, it will cost you less in the long run.

Hacksaw 05-09-2018 05:00 PM

Re: Willwood, Strange or Aerospace?
 
My first set of racing disc brakes was in 1978, Hurst/Airhearts. Since then I've used JFZ, Strange carbon/carbon, Wilwood, M W and lately Strange steel. Over this time period I've noticed changes in the Strange brakes that show me their committed to improving their product, ie directional calipers using different size pistons. Also the front kit uses aluminium hubs designed to fit one bolt circle not both. ( either 4.5 or 4.75 ) This saves on weight. Overall, IMO, Strange is the best value.


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