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jmoneyfoot 06-04-2018 11:24 PM

Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
What would the best approved fuel be for a 9.5:1 dish piston 305 2bbl?

Dan Fahey 06-04-2018 11:47 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmoneyfoot (Post 564578)
What would the best approved fuel be for a 9.5:1 dish piston 305 2bbl?

Sunoco 260GTX at 98 octane.
Do not any of the others are lower.

Mepprecht 06-05-2018 12:57 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmoneyfoot (Post 564578)
What would the best approved fuel be for a 9.5:1 dish piston 305 2bbl?

Most popular fuel is probably C11 in stock across the boards. That or c12.

GTX JOHN 06-05-2018 01:44 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
X2 for C11 with that compression in our Stockers.

Steve Stickel 06-05-2018 09:20 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 564579)
Sunoco 260GTX at 98 octane.
Do not any of the others are lower.

Dan

The Sunoco 260gtx is an unleaded fuel, similar to VP C-10, easier on the A/F wideband sensors esp for the late model and dual duty street/strip use cars, although most guys on here will use the leaded fuels (C-11, C12) etc. to extend valve train life and achieve higher octane ratings. Another issue is availability, a racers preferred fuel may not be sold at certain tracks... Thanks to MG raceway for posting this chart..


http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/wp-...-reference.pdf

RKelliher 06-05-2018 11:22 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Run c-11 in my 81 305 dish motor . run about 3 hun.faster that c-12

Dan Fahey 06-05-2018 11:33 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Stickel (Post 564593)
Dan

The Sunoco 260gtx is an unleaded fuel, similar to VP C-10, easier on the A/F wideband sensors esp for the late model and dual duty street/strip use cars, although most guys on here will use the leaded fuels (C-11, C12) etc. to extend valve train life and achieve higher octane ratings. Another issue is availability, a racers preferred fuel may not be sold at certain tracks... Thanks to MG raceway for posting this chart..


http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/wp-...-reference.pdf

Yes 260GTX it is an unlead fuel and I like it !
I can find it and less expensive than C10.

RKelliher said that running C11 works better than C12.
How does is work that one Octane Fuel works better than another?

Dan

terry1 06-05-2018 12:35 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Consistently, on a dyno, my engine makes 1% more HP with C11,
compared to VP110 or Sunoco Standard.
Terry K

GTX JOHN 06-05-2018 01:57 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
We also are faster with C11 than C12 in back to back testing
in our low compression Stockers!

Mike Pearson 06-05-2018 03:16 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
C-11 was designed especially for low compression stock and super stock applications. Its not always readily available so you have to plan ahead and get that fuel ahead of time. C-12 is much more readily available and a bit cheaper. Not as fast in the low compression engines as the C-11 but runs very well. To get full advantage of the C-11 it takes a jet change as I remember. I run C-12 in my super stocker

REGGIE WINKLES 06-05-2018 03:18 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
C-11 makes the most power with my combo (dish 305). Tried them all!

Mepprecht 06-05-2018 03:31 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
I’ve used mainly C12 (now using supreme Sunoco) and it always worked well in my p/sa 94 caprice 265 car... I never tried c11...

SDT1DYI 06-05-2018 04:33 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
I have (4) 5 Gal cans of C 11 that were purchased in Boise. If there's a Div 6 or 7 stock racer needing C11 for Mission or Woodburn I could have the fuel there. All 20 gals 300.00 $

Steve, 6380 STK. 206 799 1544

Dan Fahey 06-05-2018 05:32 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
If you have to mix fuels because of availability.
Are there any issues?

Can you run pump unleaded gas with the race fuel and be ok?

Dan

Billy Nees 06-05-2018 05:55 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 564617)

Can you run pump unleaded gas with the race fuel and be ok?

Dan

Dan, you MAY fail a fuel check if you have TRACES of unleaded fuel in your container.
So in answer to your question, no.

MikeMoller 06-05-2018 08:06 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
I run Sunoco Standard- 110. Ran some Sunoco Supreme- 112 and slowed down a .1 in eight mile. Tried the new Sunoco Surge (105) at bowling green, seems like it picked me up but have not done back to back and weather was a factor. Dished piston 305 2 barrel.

HandOverFist 06-05-2018 08:33 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 564619)
Dan, you MAY fail a fuel check if you have TRACES of unleaded fuel in your container.
So in answer to your question, no.

That happened to me at last years SportsNationals. I did not fail, but was noted it was flat. Tech offered to check my jug, but I remembered what had happened then over the winter when some non-ethanol was mistakenly poured in the cell.

Mike Pearson 06-06-2018 10:59 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 564617)
If you have to mix fuels because of availability.
Are there any issues?

Can you run pump unleaded gas with the race fuel and be ok?

Dan

Mixing fuels at an NHRA race is a No No. It will surely get you disqualified. Best is to always run the same fuel. I make sure I have enough fuel with me at all times. You cant always be sure to get what you need at the track. If you have to change for some reason make sure you drain the tank completely and then flush a bit of the new fuel through the system. This is the reason most run a small fuel cell in their cars. Makes it much easier to control the fuel issues.

Dan Fahey 06-06-2018 11:16 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson (Post 564647)
Mixing fuels at an NHRA race is a No No. It will surely get you disqualified. Best is to always run the same fuel. I make sure I have enough fuel with me at all times. You cant always be sure to get what you need at the track. If you have to change for some reason make sure you drain the tank completely and then flush a bit of the new fuel through the system. This is the reason most run a small fuel cell in their cars. Makes it much easier to control the fuel issues.

YEAH I still have the stock tank.
Have an 8 gallon tank made and will install later.
Need to add a drain.

The warning about mixing fuels.
Does that include mixing Sonoco, VP dissimilar rating approved fuels?


Dan

Hacksaw 06-06-2018 11:23 AM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Dan: Don't mix fuels, even if the colour is off they will fail it.

Dan Fahey 06-06-2018 12:21 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hacksaw (Post 564651)
Dan: Don't mix fuels, even if the colour is off they will fail it.

Good information.
Which means what ever fuel I select to stock up..!

D

Dave Noll 06-06-2018 02:54 PM

Re: Approved fuel for low compression stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 564617)
If you have to mix fuels because of availability.
Are there any issues?

Can you run pump unleaded gas with the race fuel and be ok?

Dan

C-10 is unleaded, 100 octane and it is an approved fuel.


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