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TOM KASCH 08-25-2018 10:23 AM

1967 NHRA Records
 
April 21:
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...rds%20%204.jpg

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...rds%20%205.jpg

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...ecords%206.jpg

TOM KASCH 08-27-2018 10:12 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Indy class winners
 
1967 Indy class winners:
http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...ecords%206.jpg

http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/w...rds%20%205.jpg

DeuceCoupe 09-03-2018 11:09 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Tom, I think your 2nd post is a repeat of the 1st post - the records, not the Sep 1967 Indy results.


I grabbed both off your facebook page today - this is a lot easier but whichever is easier for you. It is so valuable to have this history posted.


Wow, only one stock Ford, E/SA=11.90=w/hp I'm guessing a good old 57 4dr hardtop with a blown 312/300hp.

DeuceCoupe 04-08-2019 12:05 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Back at it, looking for a couple more things:
1. In the 1967 records Tom just posted, SS/E Randy Payne ran 12.35 & 111.11, in a 67 Chevy. Would that be a z28 Camaro or a 396/325-L35 Camaro (before it was factored higher)?


I wish they listed the engine on these sheets- sometimes the factoring makes it hard to guess, or just so many combos.


2. Tom in your "spare" time could you post the 1967 Winternationals?
Looking in particular for Ron Garey's SS/E win in a W30 of all things! Not too many Olds wins in SS/ back then. Had to be either a 1966-400-6v or a 1967-400-Qjet car.

TOM KASCH 04-12-2019 10:04 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
For 67 Winter Nationals I'd have to dig in my old Dragsters. Maybe some time i'll look

Rat Patrol 07-24-2019 04:42 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM KASCH (Post 586735)
For 67 Winter Nationals I'd have to dig in my old Dragsters. Maybe some time i'll look

Hi Tom

Would you know who won SS/B at the 67 Indy Nats ?

I know Tom Myl won SS/BA in an RO23 Plymouth.

DeuceCoupe 07-28-2019 12:06 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Rat,
For SS/B I have
11.23 at 124.65 R.L Williams, Warren MI, 67 RO23 "Hillbilly"


I'm pretty sure Tom K posted the results sheet on his Facebook account.
It takes a while to look thru all the pictures there but well worth it!

Rat Patrol 07-28-2019 06:05 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe (Post 593305)
Rat,
For SS/B I have
11.23 at 124.65 R.L Williams, Warren MI, 67 RO23 "Hillbilly"


I'm pretty sure Tom K posted the results sheet on his Facebook account.
It takes a while to look thru all the pictures there but well worth it!

Thx very much mate! Much appreciated!

Now to research R L Williams!

TOM KASCH 08-05-2019 07:28 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Sorry i don't have 67 Nationals class winners in my P.C.
Jenkins won SS

Dan Fahey 08-06-2019 04:28 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
WOW.....was this a time where Stock was STOCK ?

Bob Mulry 08-07-2019 12:37 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 594069)
WOW.....was this a time where Stock was STOCK ?


No!!!

DeuceCoupe 09-02-2019 02:46 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM KASCH (Post 593975)
Sorry i don't have 67 Nationals class winners in my P.C.
Jenkins won SS



Somewhere either on ClassRacer or HAMB I must have got the 1967 Indy results from somebody so thanks to whomever that was. Here are the sheets I have.


Tom, a couple questions for you if you have time:
* I am still looking for results sheets from:
* 1962 Pomona Winternationals
* 1965 Pomona Winternationals
* 1969 Indy Nationals
I thought I had found the 1965 Pomona on your facebook account but cant find it any more.


ALSO:
When I started this big computer study of results-cars-engines it was NHRA Stock classes, 1960-1971. Then I added SuperStock.
But reading some of your threads, I am getting tempted to add the 1970s, when stock was nearly showroom stock.
It looks like we both ran at Milan and Detroit Dragway (RIP) in the 1970s, though just a few times for me with my daily drivers LOL I was still a teenager.


It seems the Stock rules for 1972 were the same as the old era, 1961-1971, but you couldn't run cheater "fat" cams or headers any more, and had to run street tires. Was that about it? How long did that go on - 1975? 1979?


Meanwhile, from 1972-79 or whatever, were the SuperStock rules the same as 1967-71 except the older cars were allowed back in?
Thanks for any memories you have!

Rat Patrol 09-03-2019 12:54 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe (Post 596394)
Somewhere either on ClassRacer or HAMB I must have got the 1967 Indy results from somebody so thanks to whomever that was. Here are the sheets I have.


Tom, a couple questions for you if you have time:
* I am still looking for results sheets from:
* 1962 Pomona Winternationals
* 1965 Pomona Winternationals
* 1969 Indy Nationals
I thought I had found the 1965 Pomona on your facebook account but cant find it any more.


ALSO:
When I started this big computer study of results-cars-engines it was NHRA Stock classes, 1960-1971. Then I added SuperStock.
But reading some of your threads, I am getting tempted to add the 1970s, when stock was nearly showroom stock.
It looks like we both ran at Milan and Detroit Dragway (RIP) in the 1970s, though just a few times for me with my daily drivers LOL I was still a teenager.


It seems the Stock rules for 1972 were the same as the old era, 1961-1971, but you couldn't run cheater "fat" cams or headers any more, and had to run street tires. Was that about it? How long did that go on - 1975? 1979?


Meanwhile, from 1972-79 or whatever, were the SuperStock rules the same as 1967-71 except the older cars were allowed back in?
Thanks for any memories you have!

Hi and thanks for the info.

I’m wondering how Brown and Hagen could have both won SS/A?

baccaruda 09-12-2019 09:35 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol (Post 596464)
Hi and thanks for the info.

I’m wondering how Brown and Hagen could have both won SS/A?

i am looking for photos of Ed Collier pictures of is winning 1965 barracuda that won the indy nationals in 1967 in F/SA the color was robin egg shell blue he called it "Precious" with the dog on the doors. any info would be appreciated thanks much....

DeuceCoupe 09-16-2019 01:33 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by baccaruda (Post 597475)
i am looking for photos of Ed Collier pictures of is winning 1965 barracuda that won the indy nationals in 1967 in F/SA the color was robin egg shell blue he called it "Precious" with the dog on the doors. any info would be appreciated thanks much....


Rat:
On the double winners, that sheet I think is listing the class winner AND class runner-up R/U. Many of the class wins are "Brake Light" runs because the winner didn't want to re-set the class record. So in judging how fast the cars were, I find it's risky just to look at winning ET/MPH.


On the other hand, the R/U car was *probably* running flat out to catch the winner so usually their ET/MPH is a best effort. Usually.


Bacc:
The sheets I posted are all I have on Ed Collier, in fact I only guessed his car was a cuda til you confirmed that. Ed's son was on HAMB years back asking about pictures so you might see if that thread leads anywhere. I don't think it did though.


https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...9#post-4149268

TOM KASCH 09-25-2019 04:16 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
1969 Nationals winners :
SS Ronnie Sox
Stk Bill Morgan
street Glen self

Sorry I don't have the winternationals programs , would have to lookit up in my old dragsters, some day.

Rat Patrol 06-29-2020 04:32 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
I am struggling trying to find the winner of Stock Elim at the 69 NHRA Winternats.

A results list would be a huge bonus...can anyone help?

dc1320Fan 06-29-2020 03:37 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
1969 Winternationals Stock Eliminator Mark Coletti 68 Plymouth Barracuda F/SA 12.93 at 103.32 over Cal Method 57 Chev J/SA. No time listed for RU. Both from Washington. [Drag News 2/08/69 page 19]

Rat Patrol 06-29-2020 06:39 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dc1320Fan (Post 617656)
1969 Winternationals Stock Eliminator Mark Coletti 68 Plymouth Barracuda F/SA 12.93 at 103.32 over Cal Method 57 Chev J/SA. No time listed for RU. Both from Washington. [Drag News 2/08/69 page 19]

Thank you DC!

Rat Patrol 05-14-2021 07:40 AM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
For those still around - Winner of SS/B at the Nats was Herb McCandless driving the H.R Sullivan owned ‘Hillbilly’ RO23 Plymouth.

Herb won as a result of the DQ of Ed Terry’s 427 Fairlane.....apparently Ford did mot submit the paperwork on the cars.

Tom Myl won SS/BA in an RO23...but his was a clean win....over Arlen Vanke.

oldskool 08-24-2021 07:07 PM

Re: 1967 NHRA Records
 
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Browsing back thru some of these old threads & noticed that nobody mentioned anything about the fact that Pontiacs held records in A/SA, C/S, C/SA, D/SA, & I/SA.

Well, since I'm a Pontiac Freek, I noticed & am pointing it out. :D

As mentioned, there were probably some quicker or faster cars, in most classes, which were purposely run slower, to avoid lowering their nat record.

Some pics were made before '67, when the cars ran a lower class. For example: The pic of the Wolf & McClelland car shows that it was running C/SA, not A/SA. But, I assume that the 405hp 421SD engine is the only Pontiac engine that would make enuff power to run in A/SA, in the big car, in 1967.

The '58 model Lowe & Easley car was running a lower class, when the pic was taken. I think several engines were available. I believe the top option included fuel injection. So, the '58 Pontiacs probably ran lots of different classes, back in those days.


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