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RJ Sledge 04-21-2020 07:17 PM

Racing fuel prices?
 
Has anybody purchased race gas or checked price
Lately??

RJ

Adger Smith 04-22-2020 03:22 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
RJ, A long time ago a VP rep told me the price of Race fuel was tied to the Chemical market not the crude oil market. Guess that applies when they want the price high..

Larry Hill 04-22-2020 06:31 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
I'm getting a drum this week. I don't think much has changed price wise.

Billy Nees 04-22-2020 07:30 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
I paid 8.50/gal. for Blue Sunoco the other day.

SGSST109E 04-22-2020 07:36 AM

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Where Billy?

Billy Nees 04-22-2020 07:52 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Out here in Central Pa..

Lee Jordan (3223) A/S 04-22-2020 09:25 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Adger Smith (Post 612911)
RJ, A long time ago a VP rep told me the price of Race fuel was tied to the Chemical market not the crude oil market. Guess that applies when they want the price high..

I would say that the pricing is not tied to crude oil pricing but their profit margins Are!! I work in refining and I know that all the base components used for blending racing gasoline are basically everything we make. The other components are also things made in the refining process. Some refineries make more petro chemicals than others but they are all blending components that are made in refineries.

Refining companies came under scrutiny some years ago for potential price gouging. This is not what VP is doing but they kinda are. They WILL make more money if crude is down because they can buy all the blending components based on market prices. It doesn't cost near what they charge to make the different blends they produce in general. What we are paying for is their research and engineering that goes into the different blends of fuel.

MR DERBY CITY 04-22-2020 10:20 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
With the ever changing landscape of the world, VP is now producing hand sanitizer....

KRatcliff 04-22-2020 10:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 612928)
With the ever changing landscape of the world, VP is now producing hand sanitizer....

Little known fact that VP also produces a perfume and aphrodisiac. I dab a little C12 on the back of my wife's neck and off we go.

Bobby DiDomenico 04-22-2020 10:36 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 612928)
With the ever changing landscape of the world, VP is now producing hand sanitizer....

That is a smart move. The only item harder to find around here is Isopropyl Alcohol.

BRINK 04-22-2020 10:50 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 612931)
Little known fact that VP also produces a perfume and aphrodisiac. I dab a little C12 on the back of my wife's neck and off we go.

You fortunate bastard.

KRatcliff 04-22-2020 10:51 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 612934)
You fortunate bastard.

Truer words have never been spoken. :D

Willyracer 04-22-2020 11:03 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
You would think that with the supply being
high and the demand being about zero
the price would drop . Like any other
commodity. But since it not a raw material
that doesn't apply
Not that it has anything to do with this
post but regular gas is .99/gal here
in SW Ohio

RJ Sledge 04-22-2020 11:07 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
I first met Steve Burns in 1971 or 1972, he was in college here in San Antonio and had a old Dodge Dart(?) with a slant 6 that he “bracket raced” and that was his test vehicle. We had a mutual friend Jack Crider , who ran the “machine shop “ for Jacobs Distributing on South Flores.

He told us he had worked with a chemist who developed a “recipe” to boost octane and performance without any detection. And the rest is history....

Their first plant was just south of San Antonio off hwy 181, had a pipeline and smaller storage from previous oil company, was always told that their base was from Texaco.
Later moved out to Elmendorf Tx and put in his big plant.

Steve has done well and is truly a great success story and we owe him a tip of the hat.

Was just wondering about fuel pricing during the huge drop in prices at the “pump”.

RJ

340Cuda 04-22-2020 11:08 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
I have always assumed that the cost of the crude oil required was a much smaller percentage of the cost to produce pump gas than it was to produce racing gas.

Is that true?

BRINK 04-22-2020 11:17 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
I use C11. It's not good for anything.........other than going fast. I'll probably try using C12 on my next computer dream date.

KRatcliff 04-22-2020 11:27 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BRINK (Post 612941)
I use C11. It's not good for anything.........other than going fast. I'll probably try using C12 on my next computer dream date.

Pro tip: My wife is a Latina so she is higher compression than normal thus the use of C12. You don't want to throw a rod at higher RPMs and knock out the bottom end.

BRINK 04-22-2020 12:40 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 612944)
Pro tip: My wife is a Latina so she is higher compression than normal thus the use of C12. You don't want to throw a rod at higher RPMs and knock out the bottom end.

Ah yes......makes sense! Thanks for the tip.

Shake & Bake 04-22-2020 03:42 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Bought a drum of VP Q16 at the end of January this year before all this hell broke loose.......Paid the same price as I did last year.

MRE 7171 04-22-2020 07:28 PM

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With the fraudulent lawsuit filed against VP in Los Angeles (Dion & Sons vs VP), want to see what the outcome is and will this affect the prices

Jeff Stout 04-22-2020 07:34 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Just released the sales of hand sanitizer. For real it can be bought as large 55 gallon drum.

KRatcliff 04-22-2020 08:13 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 612989)
Just released the sales of hand sanitizer. For real it can be bought as large 55 gallon drum.

And the handy 325 gallon tote. Which should be enough for me to be safe around Pedigo.

https://vpracingfuels.com/wp-content...d_IBC_Tote.png

Dennis P Chapman 04-22-2020 08:55 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 612990)
And the handy 325 gallon tote. Which should be enough for me to be safe around Pedigo.

https://vpracingfuels.com/wp-content...d_IBC_Tote.png

The cost on the tote is 10,156.00 The cost on a gal 59.95

Demon340 04-22-2020 08:58 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Does anybody have an idea of the shelf life (drum) for racing fuel?
We have 55 gallons of fuel sitting, obiviously not being used; just wondering if it would pass fuel check later this summer?

MR DERBY CITY 04-22-2020 09:09 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon340 (Post 612997)
Does anybody have an idea of the shelf life (drum) for racing fuel?
We have 55 gallons of fuel sitting, obiviously not being used; just wondering if it would pass fuel check later this summer?

I always heard 1 year....

bykr 04-22-2020 09:38 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Nees (Post 612917)
I paid 8.50/gal. for Blue Sunoco the other day.

What octane is that?

Pete Lanciers 04-22-2020 10:01 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bykr (Post 613000)
What octane is that?

112 brother...

Sam Murray 04-22-2020 10:23 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Demon340 (Post 612997)
Does anybody have an idea of the shelf life (drum) for racing fuel?
We have 55 gallons of fuel sitting, obiviously not being used; just wondering if it would pass fuel check later this summer?

5 years if kept properly sealed in a metal container!

Larry Hill 04-24-2020 07:13 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Drum of Renegade 116 $597

Dyno 04-24-2020 10:24 AM

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Good price and excellent fuel. I have used it for 3 years now.

Keith Bennett 04-24-2020 02:53 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Just ordered a drum of Sunoco Standard 110 purple $590.

Demon340 04-25-2020 10:44 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bykr (Post 613000)
What octane is that?

Sunoco Standard 110

MR DERBY CITY 04-25-2020 11:23 AM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KRatcliff (Post 612944)
Pro tip: My wife is a Latina so she is higher compression than normal thus the use of C12. You don't want to throw a rod at higher RPMs and knock out the bottom end.

Kyle Ratliff, I would like to officially nominate this as POST of the year...

Pete Lanciers 04-25-2020 02:36 PM

Re: Racing fuel prices?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY (Post 613144)
Kyle Ratliff, I would like to officially nominate this as POST of the year...

I'll certainly SECOND THAT, and add my thanks for something we can finally all agree on... keep safe, stay well!

SSDiv6 04-25-2020 05:34 PM

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