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Lyn Smith 01-29-2025 04:08 PM

No oil to rockers?
 
Purchased a set of Comp hydraulic lifters and it is now getting some oil to the rockers. The difference between the two lifters is that the side oil hole is just a little higher on Comp parts. Thanks to all that sent suggestions.

Hacksaw 01-29-2025 04:38 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Wrong lifters? Spinning the drill CCW instead of CW?

1320racer 01-29-2025 04:40 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Rotate the crank. Also what drill? typically need a good 1/2” electric drill

Stan Weiss 01-29-2025 05:14 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 708758)
Have a 283 street engine in my 63 Nova cruiser. Just changed the cam and lifters and I'm getting no oil to the rockers. Have tried priming it multiple times. Usually even if you don't get a steady stream out of the push rods you will get a few bubbles when priming with the drill and dummy distributor. Have the engine on my run in stand. Have started the engine and run it for 30 seconds. Has 60lbs oil pressure but no oil to the pushrods. Any ideas?



Quote:

Originally Posted by 1320racer (Post 708761)
Rotate the crank. Also what drill? typically need a good 1/2? electric drill


:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Stan

1320racer 01-29-2025 05:22 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
He editted his original post 7 minutes after my reply adding that Info dumbazz

1legjerry 01-29-2025 05:50 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
If all you did was change cam and lifters(nothing else) then I would say you got the wrong lifters. What year 283?

Have some work the drill and then turn the crank by hand at the same time.

1320racer 01-29-2025 06:00 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
1legjerry…KNOWS

Kenney Kelley 01-29-2025 07:07 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Does your cam have the notch at the rear journal or does all Chevrolet cams have that? Did you by any chance put the 6 plugs in the block to far? When you primed the block did you remove the 1/8" pipe plug in front of the block to see if you are getting oil up front, if so it might be what the other Gentlemen have said about the lifters or have you run a wire down through the push rods? I know this is basic knowledge and I know you probably have built alot of Chevy Motors in your life time but you were asking for suggestions.

Barry Polley 01-29-2025 08:16 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Remove the intake, prime it, does the oil exit bottom of the lifter heavily? If so the lifter is wrong .

curtis reed 01-30-2025 08:45 AM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
This may sound crazy but I have seen it. Did you look at the lifters to make sure they all have the oil hole drilled in the band?

G money 01-30-2025 09:11 AM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
check the oil hole in the lifter and see if it meets the oil galley, if it doesn't then mill a .003 groove from oil radius on lifter to oil hole on the lifter. I had to due that on my son's super stock motor, they where not cheap lifter's .

Barry Polley 01-30-2025 12:24 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G money (Post 708787)
check the oil hole in the lifter and see if it meets the oil galley, if it doesn't then mill a .003 groove from oil radius on lifter to oil hole on the lifter. I had to due that on my son's super stock motor, they where not cheap lifter's .

We?ve had to take a dremel and very slightly grove down ( tiny groove) from the oil hole to the recess. Seen this about a dozen times.

55 Chevy 01-30-2025 01:04 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
The very early 283 (57), with the part number 3731548(as did the 3720991 265's) had a notch in the rear cam journal surface to basically link the block oil galleys at the # 5, the far back one feeding the rockers. It used a thinner cam plug at the back to not block that hole and if the newer style plug was used it would. Thus no oil up top. The trick was to either grind a feed hole in the block at the rear cam journal linking the two oil feed holes. Or oblong the hole in the # 5 cam bearing to link the two.

Not sure if this is the case with your 283 but just a thought. I don't know when GM made the change in the blocks,I believe it was the late fifties but i really don't know. These blocks also had no provisions for side mounts which your '63 would need.

If you did just a straight camshaft and lifter swap and not changed the rear cam plug when things worked before,this is not the problem. But just a thought.

Also on the very early 55-57 small blocks, if you used a newer style distributor instead of the original with a notch at the bottom that distributor would fill with oil as it could not drain back through the block. So mods were needed there too.

Mike Taylor 3601 01-30-2025 05:24 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
if nothing has been done with cam bearings and was oiling before cam change...
early small journal blocks have to have groove/flat spot in cam...pull lifter and spin drill and see if oil is flowing out of oil galley in lifter bore
if all that is right look at lifters... pull lifter apart and you should see a clear path for oil to pass and go through pushrod seat..
there will be a disc(valve) that sits against bottom of pushrod seat and there should be away for oil to go between disc and pushrod seat. it may have a embossed/raised place stamped in disc with a small spot that isn't embossed,leaving a small groove for oil to pass. some have the bottom of pushrod seat curved, both styles I have seen not oil.basically the disc seals against the bottom of pushrod seat and has a small place for oil to flow through.. if it does'nt which is a defect I cut a small groove in bottom of pushrod seat so oil can pass between disc and pushrod seat to oil pushrod/rocker..
lifter should have oil hole on outside in the groove,have seen them missing...
if hole is in body above oil band then it wrong for hydraulic

Lyn Smith 01-30-2025 07:03 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Removed the intake and pulled out #8 cylinder exhaust lifter. Spun pump over and oil gushes out of the open hole. Lifters seemed to be pumped up, but still no oil out of top of them. Going to install a set of Comp hydraulics tomorrow.

Barry Polley 01-30-2025 07:48 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyn Smith (Post 708811)
Removed the intake and pulled out #8 cylinder exhaust lifter. Spun pump over and oil gushes out of the open hole. Lifters seemed to be pumped up, but still no oil out of top of them. Going to install a set of Comp hydraulics tomorrow.

Lyn, Leave lifters in and spin pump, look for too much oil escaping onto cam and beliw lifter. Sounds like it?s not getting to the pushrod oil hole on the side. - thus the slot I was talking about. If it has two holes only barely slot one.

Pm sent

Mike Taylor 3601 01-31-2025 09:59 AM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Polley (Post 708812)
Lyn, Leave lifters in and spin pump, look for too much oil escaping onto cam and beliw lifter. Sounds like it?s not getting to the pushrod oil hole on the side. - thus the slot I was talking about. If it has two holes only barely slot one.

Pm sent

hydraulic lifters will have the oil hole in the oil band/groove of lifter,that lets oil flow through oil galleys.
the lifter that have to be slotted sometimes won't be hydraulic, will be soild roller or flat tappet the oil hole is above the band and that meters the oil sometimes it meters too good,then you have to make a small groove from oil band to oil hole which is above the oil band..
another check after you see oil galley is getting oil ar rear is to pull front lifter and check oil flow there, to verify the oil bands on lifters are lined up in the oil galley allowing oil to pass lifters

ron mattson 02-02-2025 06:58 PM

Re: No oil to rockers?
 
I saw a 327 that wasn?t oiling to the rockers and it
needed lash .003-.004 to oil the rockers it had longer
pushrods which changed the position of the oil hole in
the pushrod to oil hole in the rocker and without lash it would
not oil, put .004 in it and boom it oiled.


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