MT vs Hoosier Small Tire
 

I am currently running an MT 3754X - effectively a 28x10 (actual tread width) (11.4 section) Radial with an R2 "Medium" compound.

I bought a set of wheels with a set of Hoosier 18155 on them, 28 x 10 (actual tread width) (12.3 section) C07 bias ply.

I also have a set of MT 3060R, 30x9 (actual tread width) (12.5 section) R1 "less medium" compound unmounted that I was actually wanting to use and bought the wheels for.

And this got me thinking - out of everybody that runs Stock and SStock across the country, surely somebody has some notes that they could share to a SSt fellow.

The 3754's are all I have known, as the Drag & Drives require the DOT stamp for 11.0 index. But they are borderline unpredictable and require a lot of glue to work well. I got the 3060's used in hopes that a taller tire, despite being narrower, would help in that regard. I don't necessarily launch hard, but I have a lot of weight to get moving down low.

4400 pounds
Procharged Small Block (EFI)
3200 launch, 1.98 low Glide
1.5x short time

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Hoosier is the #1 brand of racing slick in all of drag racing, run by more racers than all otters combined, They also hold air and are fast. Goodyear and M/T which is owned by Goodyear are used by some of the biggest names too. Keep in mind also, that all three have deals with many racers. Phoenix is another tire run by some racers, mostly in super stock.

That all said. you eluded that you plan to compete in S/ST and IMO your choice of tire should not be your concern, rather your choice of car and combo.

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When we ran TS we tried MT, Goodyear & Hoosier. Hoosier Hands down gave us our best times and also best value for our money. And we never had a Hoosier leak down! Hoosier for the win!

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Agree

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I've run several sets of both brands of typical stocker tires. 30x9 radials. Cars both ran great on either brand. The difference is MT's had cords showing at 75ish runs. Hoosiers I easily get 100+ runs out of a set. I've spoken to a couple MT reps and they say that's normal and were unwilling to do anything for me on a new set.

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Any of the Racing Slicks you mentioned will be fine
on a car with 1.5 @ 60 and a glide unless there is a major
chassis issue.

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From personal experience, I believe M/T makes the best "Big" tire. Had a set of 32x13 hoosiers that were down right awful. I put 14.5x32 MTs on and its been amazing ever since and I get tons of runs out of them. I've also had great luck with Phoenix big tires (radial construction) that came off a SS car like 1320 eluded to. As far as a smallish tire like you are wanting to run, I've heard nothing but good things about the 30x9 Hoosier from all who run it. They work better, live longer, and hold air. At this point, the people that run MT/Goodyear have to be on deals in order to overlook the Hoosiers the way I see it.

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4400 pounds tho. If it weighed 2800 it'd be more like a 1.30 60ft. Would it still be true if that were the case?

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Try what you have on hand first imo.

If you want a DOT bias tire(slick) , I would look at the Hoosier Quick Time Pros. I've used them for index classes as well as others with success requiring DOT tires.

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Ed, I just have to ask how you know what tires all these otters are running? Just kidding man, I thought it was a funny auto correct when I read it.

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This is the kind of conversation I was hoping to get. 100% I'm going to try what I have on hand as a baseline.

I guess kind of where I'm at, is a situation where I really don't know the condition of these used tires I've got, so I don't know if they'll be good representations of a new set. At the same time, do I get a third set of wheels and take them all to the track and do a/b/c comparison runs, or do I say "I know these 3754s are way too tricky, let's unmount them and put the 3060R on".

Unfortunately, I don't have a tire machine, so any changes costs more money. Although I guess in the big picture, all R&D costs some amount of money.

On that same note, I'm having to weigh out section width versus wheel backspace. I have about an inch and a quarter from the leaf spring to the sidewall right now at 5.5 inches of backspace, so either the Hoosier or the 3060 I'm going to lose a half inch of that clearance.


If I go to the Hoosier 30x10.5, I definitely have to go to a 4.5 backspace. With my weight I don't think I really need a 30x10.5 tire, it would definitely be a little more forgiving. But for stuff where I don't need that dot stamped tire, I'm trying to decide which way I want to go - short and wide, or tall and skinny.

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We routine run low to mid 1.3s with our stockers without any issues.

I lot of the higher HP Stockers are way faster than that on the above
tires.

We have found very little difference in ET between Goodyears
and Hoosiers the last several years.

Years ago, the Goodyears tended to not recover from wheel spin
very well. However, Goodyear seems to have gotten a handle on
that since that time.

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If you are going to run Super Street, keep in mind that you will be first out in the morning. I would highly suggest running a bias-ply slick as it will be more forgiving. In Division 2, it is hit-or-miss on what kind of track you are going to get from the NHRA early in the AM (and late in the rounds). A lot of Stockers are running a bunch of weight to compensate for this.

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He’s already running a bunch of weight :D with a car and a combo that will not be competitive in S/ST.

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Would you agree that all of us had to start somewhere? It is a fact of life that sometimes we have to make good with what we have. That doesn't always work out. But, I would suggest that the challenge is half the fun. Most of us are not rock stars on our first outing...

I also wouldn't count anyone out just based on opinions. There are some people out there that will flat out murder you in anything. I will throw Fletcher out there as an example.

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This guy ain’t that guy and my advice to him is spot on and the TRUTH! He’d get the same advice from anyone running the class that’s being honest, I will throw Keith Mayers out there as an example.

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I would always suggest running a radial tire if your car works. If it doesn't work, make it work.

In your case, I would suggest a 28 x 10.5 bracket radial, either PBR (Mickey) or DBR (Hoosier).

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I dig it, just make sure you have enough gear to get to the 1/4 mile

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After reading your original post again, the first thing I would do is mount up the 30 x 9 radials you already own and try them. I ran brackets and S/ST for 20 years on those tires (30 x 9 Stocker radials, but not Mickeys) before switching to bracket radials 4-5 years ago.

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I agree with Tony!

I run a ProCharged SBC with EFI @ 3100 lbs. We have run S/ST, but not with this combo & the car is primarily a bracket car. We have a glide with a 1.76 1st gear & launch @3400 with around 3 lbs. of boost. The car 60's in the high 1.20s.

We have raced on pretty much all the Hoosier 30x9 radials, C06, C07 & C30 compounds in both standard & lightweight. We also run the M/T Pro Bracket Radial 30x10.5. The M/T is our favorite radial, but the Hoosiers are a very close 2nd.

The Hoosier below in yellow & we have limited runs on them. They seem to work well & provide a very aggressive bite on the starting line.

1700/781L :)

https://i.imgur.com/Udl6Hcb.png

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This is good feedback. My default thought was to put the 30x9's on the wheels my 3754's are on now simply because I know the little bit of height will bring a little more stability.

The truck repeats really well already in 11.00 index as long as the track is there. But with the Drag & Drives, the prep is very hit and miss, and that's when the DOT's show their weakness.

I know divisional prep can vary wildly, and that's why I also know the DOT's have a snowball's chance in hell. I want something much more consistent. Looks like I'm barking towards the correct target.