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gmonde 12-08-2018 12:30 AM

math class needed on valve springs
 
what is the math formula for a known spring rate to calculate seat and open pressure ?

spring rate is 370lbs @ 1.00"

closed valve spring installed heigh1.780
open valve spring height 2.237

seat pressure ?
open pressure ?

thanks in advance

David Lee 12-08-2018 02:21 AM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
this might help


https://help.summitracing.com/app/an...ve-spring-rate

Myron Piatek 12-08-2018 09:57 AM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmonde (Post 578220)
what is the math formula for a known spring rate to calculate seat and open pressure ?

spring rate is 370lbs @ 1.00"

closed valve spring installed heigh1.780
open valve spring height 2.237

seat pressure ?
open pressure ?

thanks in advance

If you meant to say "open valve spring height 1.237" then the difference is .543"

370 rate x .543" lift = 200.91 lbs more than whatever you set/start with the installed height at.

You have to have a baseline height/pressure to calculate from, which the spring chart or actual test pressure will provide. That height is a variable based on valve stem length, +/std./- locks & retainers, spring seat machine work, depth of valve job seats.

Chevy55 12-08-2018 11:00 AM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
If you can afford it, this is the cats meow..............


https://static.summitracing.com/glob...-sm-600_ml.jpg
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/l...+5ba26a96cdb6b


Wish I had it years ago!

gsa612 12-08-2018 01:43 PM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
What is the valve lift on the int. and exh.?. gsa612

FireSale 12-08-2018 04:59 PM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
If you can find a comparable spring on the PAC Racing site, this link to their spring rate calculator might help.


https://www.racingsprings.com/index..../?sku=PAC-1224


Edit: Change the part number to your match.

ss3011 12-08-2018 06:08 PM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
The basic formula is F=kX . F is the force , k is the rate , X is the difference in spring height from the length of the spring when it is not loaded .

Eman 12-09-2018 12:29 AM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gmonde (Post 578220)
what is the math formula for a known spring rate to calculate seat and open pressure ?

spring rate is 370lbs @ 1.00"

closed valve spring installed heigh1.780
open valve spring height 2.237

seat pressure ?
open pressure ?

thanks in advance

Is the spring rate 370lbs per inch? Is the installed height 1.780? Open height can't be more than closed, what is the free height of the spring?

Kevin Panzino 12-09-2018 11:47 AM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ss3011 (Post 578247)
The basic formula is F=kX . F is the force , k is the rate , X is the difference in spring height from the length of the spring when it is not loaded .

This is correct.

To add to above, the spring rate is stated as the force generated per unit of compression. Ex: 1,000 Lbf/Inch, 1,700 N/cm etc.


Also, its spring FORCE, not pressure. Spring pressure is a common misnomer racers seem to always use, and it just wont die. Its entirely wrong. Its not a pressure, Its a force.

gmonde 12-09-2018 10:11 PM

Re: math class needed on valve springs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gsa612 (Post 578237)
What is the valve lift on the int. and exh.?. gsa612

.457


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