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hardtimes 07-17-2014 03:52 PM

Help with a Stocker
 
I am at the beginning stages of thinking about building a stocker.
Looking at a 67/68 Mustang coupe looking at the 390 combo that would run D/SA
I have a 67 Coupe that has a 302 in it and already has a 9" rear. Just bought it over the winter car is in good shape.
I am a big fan of stockers but don't know a lot about them and now one where I live knows anything about them
I am looking for some good contact numbers suggestions for engine, trans, converter, etc.
Also I know this is a tough question buy what kind of money would I be looking at building this car from scratch to one that could .6 or .7 under in the heat.
Any and all help appreciated, PM's welcomed. Thanks

FireSale 07-17-2014 04:33 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
Unless my records are out of date, the stock factor for the 68 coupe is 10.18 and the SS factor is 9.87, That's E/SA and SS/HA. I don't have the 67 coupe in my build folder. Stock is at the top of the weight bracket and SS is towards the bottom. Check these numbers with what is current and read the rule book over and over. Then start the process again. No kidding here.

I'm building a 68 coupe for SS or GT and it's very easy to make a mistake that winds up costing you $1000 because you didn't cross reference the rules before buying parts. $40,000 in a competitive race car isn't a stupid number.

You can't legally bolt HP onto a stocker, but you can tweak the engine quite a bit. It takes an engine builder to do something like that and stay in the rules. Stock racers are all engine experts and engineers at heart who love the challenge of squeezing something out of nothing.

A c4/c6 is a good trans. A race prepped one is $2000.
A Ford 9 inch is a good rear end. A race prepped one is $2000.

See where this is going?

My advice is build your car one piece at a time. Put tires and a good rear end on it and hit the track. Build up from there.

Good luck.

Dale

Jim Kaekel 07-17-2014 04:51 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
It would be alot to cheaper to buy an existing car rather than build one from scratch.

vic guilmino 07-17-2014 05:53 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
i have a 460 tbird gt/ha for sale

Mike Gray 07-17-2014 07:09 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
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I started on one and I'm building it from scratch ('67 Shelby). It's taking a while since I'm spreading out the cost. you can email me at Mikeg@floorsbysignature.com
if you want to ask any questions. (I'm about 1/2 done and figuring it's going to be at least $40K)

FireSale 07-17-2014 08:55 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Gray (Post 438223)
I started on one and I'm building it from scratch ('67 Shelby). It's taking a while since I'm spreading out the cost. you can email me at Mikeg@floorsbysignature.com
if you want to ask any questions. (I'm about 1/2 done and figuring it's going to be at least $40K)

Funny, that pic looks exactly like my garage tonight right down to the Cal Traks, jack stands and floor jack. I even have the passenger side door off my 68 coupe. Small world when you're having fun. Been working on it every day for a year now.

Dale

Chris1529 07-17-2014 09:03 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
Don't use a C6 trans. You don't need it and it is just a horsepower hog.
Any good built C4 will easily handle a 390 stocker.

Joe Toller 07-17-2014 09:37 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
Buy one, don't build. Then you can get out there and race, find out what you like and don't, maybe even a better idea of what you want if and/or when you upgrade or build your own. but to start out, buy one. Don't make the mistake alot of us have. Had I just put my pride and ego away and listened I'd be racing, not making failed project after failed project...

Mike Gray 07-17-2014 10:26 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
One more thing, if it's a nice car sell it and get another. I would not have done this to a nice fastback. After you gut the car and alter the wheel well openings there is no going back. Things like heaters, wipers, vents, rear seats only get in the way, you need to get it light and then add back weight where needed.

Bob Emery 07-17-2014 10:38 PM

Re: Help with a Stocker
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Toller (Post 438236)
Buy one, don't build. Then you can get out there and race, find out what you like and don't, maybe even a better idea of what you want if and/or when you upgrade or build your own. but to start out, buy one. Don't make the mistake alot of us have. Had I just put my pride and ego away and listened I'd be racing, not making failed project after failed project...

What he said, in spades! If I'd have just bought at the beginning of my quest I'd be racing instead of sitting on the sidelines.......


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