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John Nechiporchik 07-29-2015 06:17 PM

LT1 performance
 
Over the past month, I have been flogging my 98 Firebird LT1 since freshening the engine and installing the FAST XFI 2.0.
After several iterations to the VE table, we have a consistent A/F result with maximum correction at 3% at one point.
Overall, the performance of the car has been sub par with a best of 10.95 @121MPH in 2800'DA.
Additional info:
A/F target is set at 12.9-1.
converter flash is 5400...ATI 8"
shifting at 7000....RPM drops to 5800 on gear changes
Converter slip is 4% in high gear ( at end of run)
5.14 gear with 30x9 Hoosier bias tires (3 years old)
vehicle weight is 3240#
60' at Milan is 1.43-1.46 on Test and tune night (marginal track)
Just checked valve springs (PAC 1409X....170# on seat)
checked compression.....185PSI all holes
initial timing is set at 40degrees until coming off two step at 3300rpm....then pulling timing back to 36.

Questions:
Based on this info, thoughts on A/F ratio at 12.9???. I have been told the LT1's like to run fat....but I'd like to hear from someone who has experience ...preferably that runs a FAST system.
Next, I have rec'd mixed signals on the timing for this combo. Again, can someone with an LT1 stocker help me out here?
Lastly, I believe the converter is too tight based on my review of the racepak data. Again, would appreciate input based on the data presented.
BTW, I did replace the rear tires yesterday with Hoosier 18212 Lightweight radials (30x9) on a 10 inch rim...but no test results yet.
Any input is appreciated. Gotta wake this thing up !!
Thanks,
John

countrypuppy4865 07-29-2015 07:47 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
12.9-13.2 should be pretty good. If the air fuel is within .5 of the target you shouldn't have much left in the tune(you may be chasing .02-.03 at that point). Radial tires will pick you up .10 or more. With 121 mph it seems like it's way down on power.

russellauto1 07-29-2015 07:55 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
GIve Ed Wright at Fastchips a call. Very Knowledgable on lt1 Tuning.

Ed Wright 07-29-2015 10:16 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
Your timing and air/fuel sound close enough, I'm with Cooter. Doesn't sound like there is much left there. I did tune one good running LT1 Stocker that liked 12.5-1 air/fuel, but only one. My car likes 12.8-1 to 13.0-1, depending on RPM. Sometimes you get a wide band that's calibration is shifted a little, so the numbers you see at peak torque may look a little different than somebody else's. Most LT1s I have worked with like 35 to 37 degrees, so 36 should be very close. Not likely much ET there, if you are at 36 now.
Sounds like your just down on power.
You have verified your timing with a light, right?

John Nechiporchik 07-30-2015 08:21 AM

Re: LT1 performance
 
Yes, Verified timing with light.

Dan Fahey 07-30-2015 02:32 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
Interesting comment about Radial Slicks

Why are Radials Better than Bias Ply Slicks?

D

Tony Goodman 07-30-2015 04:06 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
John, Have you tried leaving off the footbrake 3000 rpm. If it's to rich on the 2 step it can make the car sluggish. Start up, idle, burnout need to be lean and clean on these cars. Tony

John Nechiporchik 07-30-2015 06:25 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
I will try that approach.

Ed Wright 07-30-2015 07:44 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey (Post 478039)
Interesting comment about Radial Slicks

Why are Radials Better than Bias Ply Slicks?

D

Often the easiest one tenth or more you can bolt on an automatic car.

Dan Fahey 07-31-2015 12:43 PM

Re: LT1 performance
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Wright (Post 478063)
Often the easiest one tenth or more you can bolt on an automatic car.

Ed... I keep hearing that?
Why does it do that..?

One race said because the tie does not grow.
I think it is more about the structure of the tire.
Think it is about less parasitic drag and does not wiggle like a Bias Ply.

Dan


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