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GeneNMCA 12-07-2016 05:03 PM

Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
The following are the Preliminary Rules package for 2017 NMCA S3 Eliminator: If you have any suggest or ideas with this rules set please forward to NMCArules@promediapub.com

NMCA Stock/Super Stock Combo (S/SS)

S3

Class Description
S/SS is a handicap brake out eliminator based off of all NHRA and IHRA Stock and Super Stock classes. With the exception of any current combination that is eligible to participate in NMCA Super Car eliminator will not be eligible to participate in S/SS Combo.

Qualifying Information, Ladder Type, & Tree
All run qualified field on a sportsman type ladder. The class will qualify based off of current posted indexes from NHRA and IHRA. Eliminations will be run on a 5 tenths full tree; 64 cars or less will be laddered first round, over 64 cars will be random paired first round and laddered second round based off of first round eliminations. All dial-ins must be under the currently posted indexes for all NHRA / IHRA Stock and Super Stock class combinations. All qualifiers in S/SS must have a valid elapsed time recorded to be placed into eliminator competition. During eliminations when identical class combinations are paired the dial-in for both competitors will be based off of the faster qualified car and bumped by 1 tenth of a second, brake out still in effect.

RULES
All rules and classification will be based off the current year NHRA and IHRA rules and classification guide with the exception of; Fuel Check and Weight will not be a technical requirement. All NHRA Safety rules will be in effect. No modifications, which alter the car from factory stock, are permitted unless they are specifically allowed in NHRA / IHRA rules, or as authorized by the NMCA rules committee. Competitors will be required to have a valid NMCA Membership and permanent number, number can be their current NHRA or IHRA number as long as it does not duplicate another competitors number, in those cases NMCA will issue a number as close as possible to one of the competitors current number.



CREDENTIALS
A Valid state or government issued driver’s license beyond a learner/s permit level mandatory for cars running 10.00 or slower. A Valid NHRA competition license is mandatory for cars running 9.99 or quicker, at an NHRA Member Track. NHRA/IHRA competition license mandatory at an IHRA Member Track.
Note: It is ultimately the competitor’s responsibility to familiarize themselves with the NMCA class requirements as well as all NHRA safety requirements. The competitor agrees they bear the ultimate responsibility when it comes to safety and how it complies with the NMRA and NHRA rule books. The competitor also agrees that no one else other than the competitor is in the best position to know about how their particular race car has been constructed and how to safely operate it.

Appearance:
In order to be eligible for the NMCA official contingency program, all contingency sponsors’ decals must be easily visible and located on the outside of the vehicle on the rear quarter windows or rear window in a clear and organized fashion. Contingency decals may not be overlapped or modified. Other decals and sponsors may appear on bodywork, front end and on windows. Failure to do so can result in the driver forfeiting all claimed contingencies for that particular event. The NMCA does require all entries to run the following decals:
1. NMCA Windshield Banner: Decal needs to be located on the top of the windshield or just above the windshield located on the body.
2. NMCA Drag Racing Series: Decals (2) must be located on each side of vehicle. Either on the side windows or decals can be located on the body right beside the side windows.
3. Class Sponsor: Decal must be located on the passenger’s side lower portion of the windshield.
4. VP Racing Fuels: Official Fuel decals (2) required. Must be located on each side of vehicle. (In a contingency decal manner)
5. Aerospace Winners Circle: Decals (2) must be prominently displayed on each side of vehicle. Failure to do so can result in the winning driver forfeiting his/hers Winner’s Trophy & Payout.
6. Class & Competition Numbers: Numbers must be easily visible/legible and located on the front, back, and both side windows.

S3

SS3718 12-07-2016 05:33 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
I reviewed quickly and one thing that jumped out is the NHRA vs. IHRA index. I'll use GT/FA as an example. In NHRA the index is 10.80. In IHRA, I believe it is 11.10. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong)

Probably need to use IHRA indexes for all or have wording that says NHRA index trumps IHRA index when both organizations have the same class. That would leave the IHRA index in use for classes that are not offered in NHRA. Hope that makes sense!

Nick Morris

Andrew Hill 12-07-2016 05:38 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
The rules mention that weight is not a technical requirement, but there are pseudo-heads up runs with the dial in being .1 quicker than the faster qualified car. Will these runs, at least, be weighed?

ALMACK 12-07-2016 07:52 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SS3718 (Post 521801)
I reviewed quickly and one thing that jumped out is the NHRA vs. IHRA index. I'll use GT/FA as an example. In NHRA the index is 10.80. In IHRA, I believe it is 11.10. (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong)

Probably need to use IHRA indexes for all or have wording that says NHRA index trumps IHRA index when both organizations have the same class. That would leave the IHRA index in use for classes that are not offered in NHRA. Hope that makes sense!

Nick Morris

I agree with Nick.
It might get confusing.

They could do what Michael Beard did at the Class Nationals and use all IHRA indexes on entries with a similar NHRA class.

It gets even more confusing when the factored IHRA hp is lower than the NHRA hp for the same combo and moves the combo to a different natural class and/or weight..

ALMACK 12-07-2016 07:58 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Hill (Post 521803)
The rules mention that weight is not a technical requirement, but there are pseudo-heads up runs with the dial in being .1 quicker than the faster qualified car. Will these runs, at least, be weighed?

Good point.
I doubt it would ever affect me if I ran their events, but racers in the heavily populated upper letter classes might be concerned.
They have scales at all of their events anyways, so they would just need an official there at the scales on those rare heads up pairings.

Chris1529 12-08-2016 12:01 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
By going with that different rule on heads up, that could possibly change the way people run their car during qualifying.

Ed Carpenter 12-08-2016 01:21 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeneNMCA (Post 521796)
The following are the Preliminary Rules package for 2017 NMCA S3 Eliminator: If you have any suggest or ideas with this rules set please forward to NMCArules@promediapub.com

NMCA Stock/Super Stock Combo (S/SS)

S3

Class Description
S/SS is a handicap brake out eliminator based off of all NHRA and IHRA Stock and Super Stock classes. With the exception of any current combination that is eligible to participate in NMCA Super Car eliminator will not be eligible to participate in S/SS Combo.

Qualifying Information, Ladder Type, & Tree
All run qualified field on a sportsman type ladder. The class will qualify based off of current posted indexes from NHRA and IHRA. Eliminations will be run on a 5 tenths full tree; 64 cars or less will be laddered first round, over 64 cars will be random paired first round and laddered second round based off of first round eliminations. All dial-ins must be under the currently posted indexes for all NHRA / IHRA Stock and Super Stock class combinations. All qualifiers in S/SS must have a valid elapsed time recorded to be placed into eliminator competition. During eliminations when identical class combinations are paired the dial-in for both competitors will be based off of the faster qualified car and bumped by 1 tenth of a second, brake out still in effect.

RULES
All rules and classification will be based off the current year NHRA and IHRA rules and classification guide with the exception of; Fuel Check and Weight will not be a technical requirement. All NHRA Safety rules will be in effect. No modifications, which alter the car from factory stock, are permitted unless they are specifically allowed in NHRA / IHRA rules, or as authorized by the NMCA rules committee. Competitors will be required to have a valid NMCA Membership and permanent number, number can be their current NHRA or IHRA number as long as it does not duplicate another competitors number, in those cases NMCA will issue a number as close as possible to one of the competitors current number.



CREDENTIALS
A Valid state or government issued driver’s license beyond a learner/s permit level mandatory for cars running 10.00 or slower. A Valid NHRA competition license is mandatory for cars running 9.99 or quicker, at an NHRA Member Track. NHRA/IHRA competition license mandatory at an IHRA Member Track.
Note: It is ultimately the competitor’s responsibility to familiarize themselves with the NMCA class requirements as well as all NHRA safety requirements. The competitor agrees they bear the ultimate responsibility when it comes to safety and how it complies with the NMRA and NHRA rule books. The competitor also agrees that no one else other than the competitor is in the best position to know about how their particular race car has been constructed and how to safely operate it.

Appearance:
In order to be eligible for the NMCA official contingency program, all contingency sponsors’ decals must be easily visible and located on the outside of the vehicle on the rear quarter windows or rear window in a clear and organized fashion. Contingency decals may not be overlapped or modified. Other decals and sponsors may appear on bodywork, front end and on windows. Failure to do so can result in the driver forfeiting all claimed contingencies for that particular event. The NMCA does require all entries to run the following decals:
1. NMCA Windshield Banner: Decal needs to be located on the top of the windshield or just above the windshield located on the body.
2. NMCA Drag Racing Series: Decals (2) must be located on each side of vehicle. Either on the side windows or decals can be located on the body right beside the side windows.
3. Class Sponsor: Decal must be located on the passenger’s side lower portion of the windshield.
4. VP Racing Fuels: Official Fuel decals (2) required. Must be located on each side of vehicle. (In a contingency decal manner)
5. Aerospace Winners Circle: Decals (2) must be prominently displayed on each side of vehicle. Failure to do so can result in the winning driver forfeiting his/hers Winner’s Trophy & Payout.
6. Class & Competition Numbers: Numbers must be easily visible/legible and located on the front, back, and both side windows.

S3


Is there a schedule for 2017? Will s/ss be contested at all NMCA events?

kyhemi-dart 12-08-2016 01:27 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
Why not take the indexes from each and set the NMCA index right in the middle? There will be cars in classes that can't run some of the NHRA indexes but are fine in IHRA.... just a thought.

Plus I think two cars in the same class should run heads up, no break out

Dyno 12-08-2016 03:07 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
My NHRA index is 9.30 for SS/AH. In IHRA it is a SS/AA car and I think the index is 9.95. Dyno

denbreeden 12-08-2016 03:25 PM

Re: Preliminary NMCA Stock/Super Stock (S3)Compo Rules 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Carpenter (Post 521872)
Is there a schedule for 2017? Will s/ss be contested at all NMCA events?

Ed,

They have the schedule on the NMCA website, S/SS at all 6 events.

Dennis Breeden


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