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Swandog 09-06-2014 10:47 AM

302 Ford 2V
 
I am looking for some input and advice from anyone running (or who has played with) the 302 Ford 2V combos. I've recently picked up an early 1980's Capri and looking to run as a1982 Capri in Q or R.

I know there are a few such combos in division 6 and I have some questions and need some recommendations. Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

Sean Marconette 09-06-2014 01:55 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Stick only based on the guide, your aware of this correct? As for getting the car to min weight that should not be an issue at all. These are lighter than the newer cars, but you will still need to remove anything not needed to get there.
Sorry no help here on the 2v engine though.

Sean

rick lester 09-06-2014 04:19 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Sean is correct for NHRA. IHRA allows you to run an automatic, last time I checked. I think the hardest part to find is going to be the correct intake. Since you have an early fox body, you could update the body to run any combo from 82 to 86. I think about the only thing you might have to change would be a few trim pieces, 86 would require a 3rd brake light bubble hatch. There might be some differences in the front facia and tail lights year to year.

JHeath 09-06-2014 05:39 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
1986 is an EFI motor.

Rory McNeil 09-06-2014 06:11 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
The Capris had pretty much the same body from 1979 thru 1982. In 83, Capris went from a flat hatch glass to a larger, "Bubble shaped" rear glass. Also the 83 thru 86 Capris had recesed tail lights. compared to the flush lights on earlier cars. 79 had a 302 2 barrel, 80 & 81 , no 302, only V8 has a 255 with tiny ports. 82 had the 2 barrel "HO" engine, with a bigger carb and cam. 83&84 302s used the 4 barrel carb,with a stick, an automatic was available, with only with the CFI throttle body EFI. 85 stick had a 302 4 barrel, now with a hyd. roller cam, auto, again with CFI. 86 had a multiport EFI, both stick and auto, but with a smaller throttle body and odd, high swirl 86 only cyl. heads. No more Capris after 86. although the Mustang 5.0 was pretty much unchanged from 87 thru 93.

Swandog 09-06-2014 11:02 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Thanks for the comments. I must admit I did misinterpret the guide as the stick angle is not in my plan. I have a bunch of 86 efi parts still around from previous bracket cars so that seems like a better path at this point.

I know there used to be a Denysenko that ran and 86 ford efi with some success. Any others running this combo?

I'm out to get started in class racing and not set records. I've been thinking about this for too many years and need to get started.

My rare 82 intake will be for sale soon :)

Joe Toller 09-06-2014 11:16 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
The Mustang CAN be ran as an auto, I even have the confirmation from Dave Schaffel in Div. 6.

Sean Marconette 09-07-2014 12:00 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Joe what year as an Auto? Racers bitch about stock seats, the right hoods on Camaro's, and on and on. As Rory described the factory sold certain years as Stick only, then that is what it should be. And that will be something that would come from Glendora, not a division saying otherwise. What happens if you race out of division? See how well that works out.

So would you want to build a car that was sold from the factory as a STICK only and a few years after running it as an auto and suddenly it has to be a stick only? Ask the Camaro racers about that one, and see if you really want to go down that road. A hood is cheap compared to a drivetrain. Right is right, wrong is wrong.

Dustin,
That would be Tony Denysenko. Anything Ford, between his dad Alex and Tony they are a wealth of knowledge in these cars. Alex is a straight shooter and will not sugercoat anything. http://www.moneymakerracing.net/

Sean

Joe Toller 09-07-2014 07:47 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
82. If you look in the guide, absolutely nowhere does it say it has to be auto or manual. It does on the Capri, but not on the Mustang. That's what I saw, and (tech director) Dave Schaffel too. If I can find the email, it was confirmed in Glendora as well, and that was the email I had forwarded to me. It's their error, not mine. I had never intended to leave the division so it didn't bother me.

I do have an intake and carb for this still, for sale, if someone wants to build one.

Swandog 09-07-2014 10:49 PM

Re: 302 Ford 2V
 
Thanks for the info Sean. I'll make some contact with Tony Denysenko and see if he is willing to help steer me in the right direction. My car is an 84 RS so other than a 3rd brake light is identical to an 86.

I've owned and bracket raced fairly stock versions of 86, 88, and 91 fox mustangs and can attest to the fact that 86's have more potential than most folks give them credit.


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