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Don Kennedy 01-18-2018 12:20 PM

How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to events
 
WOW if a person can multiply the number of race entries allowed times say 100 less entries into those races times 25 races the amount of money they are leaving on the table is huge > wonder how the accountants feel about that ?
wow of there were no sportsman in the pits how would a fan feel about the deserted pits look like no one is racing .I wonder what a accountant would feel about that ,say if there were no sportsman in the pits about the lack of money ?? just some questions . during my down time lol:D

Crew Chief 01-18-2018 12:36 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
Fans that only show up at national events on Sunday are used to seeing empty pits. They don't care about Sportsman racing. They are there to see the Pros.

Mike Jones 01-18-2018 12:57 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
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Originally Posted by Don Kennedy (Post 554083)
WOW if a person can multiply the number of race entries allowed times say 25 less entries into those races times 25 races the amount of money they are leaving on the table is huge > wonder how the accountants feel about that ?
wow of there were no sportsman in the pits how would a fan feel about the deserted pits look like no one is racing .I wonder what a accountant would feel about that ,say if there were no sportsman in the pits about the lack of money ?? just some questions . during my down time lol:D

Even if its 65 cars in S/SS, not counting Top`s and Super`s ( 130x330=21,450), the money isn`t going to be easy to replace. If they can shorten events by one day (+20-25% reduction in operations), who knows what that saves. The fans do pay to see the Fuelers etc and if the gate can support it, Sportsman racers could get bumped.
I think stock racers have a challenge ahead with NHRA, the aftermarket and mail order parts. They are in business together, effectively. Harder to find older castings etc., could lead to liberal rule changes. The appeal isn't there for the new generation fans either. They head for concessions and bathrooms for FS/XX.
I doubt everybody that makes partner decisions, are as charmed with S/SS Eliminator as the old timers are.
Just thinking out loud...
Mike A114

Billy Nees 01-18-2018 01:21 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
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Originally Posted by Mike Jones (Post 554088)
Even if its 65 cars in S/SS, not counting Top`s and Super`s ( 130x330=21,450), the money isn`t going to be easy to replace. If they can shorten events by one day (+20-25% reduction in operations), who knows what that saves. The fans do pay to see the Fuelers etc and if the gate can support it, Sportsman racers could get bumped.

I think stock racers have a challenge ahead with NHRA, the aftermarket and mail order parts. They are in business together, effectively. Harder to find older castings etc., could lead to liberal rule changes. The appeal isn't there for the new generation fans either. They head for concessions and bathrooms for FS/XX.

I doubt everybody that makes partner decisions, are as charmed with S/SS Eliminator as the old timers are.
Just thinking out loud...
Mike A114

I don't believe that the Sportsman Racers can get "bumped" the way that the NHRAs charter and not-for-profit status is now.

There may be a handful of S/SS Racers who DON'T have a stash of the correct casting number parts that they need to race their combo. That's just a B.S. line put out there by the people who are trying to "liberalize" the rules. And if you DON'T have the correct casting number parts, there's newer combos out there for those to run.

The "old timers" are the ones with the talent, time and money. And (arguably) S/SS are the healthiest Eliminators right now.

J.R. Haddad 01-18-2018 01:28 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
Although we feel the need to forecast the future in a dismal fashion,
today's reality is that we bust ourselves towing long distances to
accumulate Grade points so that we can enter the National Events
that we would like to attend. From a business model point of view,
NHRA'S handling of this is very smart.
It would be similar to telling you that you must attend 5-8 farm team
games before you could buy a ticket to see the New York Rangers.
If the owners thought they could get away it, they would.
Most savvy business owners would. Remember, we DO want NHRA
to remain strong financially and viable in the future. We love racing,
there always be hurdles, adjust and move forward. The Good Old
Days are gone. These are the Good New Days. J.R. Haddad.

Don Kennedy 01-18-2018 01:52 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
I am going to try and do the Math > 25 races a year times less 100 racers per event at say at roughly $ 400 per racer equals ? a pretty chunk of change .WOW what will or would replace that loss of income is a good question

Jeff Stout 01-18-2018 02:10 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
Empty pits will be replaced with carnival rides.

jmcarter 01-18-2018 02:38 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
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Originally Posted by Jeff Stout (Post 554094)
Empty pits will be replaced with carnival rides.

The ARMY has a pretty big one already and will add zip lines, Harley will set up a small pylon riding course (they are in hot pursuit of the millennials), more Virtual racing and of course more DSR and JFR big rigs...they won't even know we're gone. Of course when DSR and JFR departs the big top comes down.

SSDiv6 01-18-2018 04:06 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
They just increase the entry and ancillary fees to racers and increase the cost of tickets to make up the deficit! :D

Mike Pearson 01-18-2018 05:59 PM

Re: How will an Accountant feel with the less entries to eve
 
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Originally Posted by SSDiv6 (Post 554106)
They just increase the entry and ancillary fees to racers and increase the cost of tickets to make up the deficit! :D


All of which are way out of hand. That's one thing that is hurting the spectator numbers. Lots of empty seats at the races I have seen on TV.


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