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jamie2370 08-26-2016 11:48 AM

66 chevy ll cage
 
If you were building a 66 chevy ll stocker, would you do just a 6 point roll bar or go ahead and do a 8-10 point cage. Would chromoly save enough weight to offset the expense?

FireSale 08-26-2016 08:55 PM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
I put a 10 point ms cage in my 12 second Mustang when I built it just because it allowed me to upgrade the car to a bigger engine package and more speed without ever having to retrofit a cage upgrade. Think about tearing the interior of that stocker apart in a few years. It's not pretty.

Dale

Alan Roehrich 08-26-2016 09:50 PM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
Go 10 point 1-5/8" chrome moly. It makes a nice rock solid stiff car, that you can count on.

craiger 08-29-2016 04:47 PM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
go with full moly cage imo. remember on the chevy everything from the firewall forward just bolts on the car. they have structural rigidity of a marshmallow.

Mike Taylor 3601 08-30-2016 08:29 AM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich (Post 512708)
Go 10 point 1-5/8" chrome moly. It makes a nice rock solid stiff car, that you can count on.

What Alan said,plus moly will be about half the weight of mild, moly cage will weigh about same or less than mild roll bar.
Mike Taylor 3601

PROSTOCKTOM 08-30-2016 10:00 AM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Taylor 3601 (Post 512996)
What Alan said,plus moly will be about half the weight of mild, moly cage will weigh about same or less than mild roll bar.
Mike Taylor 3601

1.625" Mild Steel DOM is .120" wall is 1.929 # per foot

1.625" Chrome Moly is .083" wall is 1.367 # per foot

The weigh savings comes from the fact that you are using a thinner wall material. However in this case the Chrome Moly cage will weigh 29.1% less than Mild Steel.

Tom

Tom Goldman 08-30-2016 12:59 PM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
I usually use the 33% figure as a rule of thumb, since most cars done in the last 20 years have .134"wall ERW tube instead of .120 DOM
Average chrome moly roll cage weighs around the same as a .134" wall mild steel roll bar.
The added safety from a cage in a car like a shoebox Nova is worth the price and even a few pounds.
It's not just how fast you are going any more, you have to consider the 150+mph bullet on 9" tires in the other lane .

james schaechter 09-08-2016 04:57 AM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
Our Nova really benefited from a cage compared to when it had a moly bar in it. They are not the strongest cars. I believe there is a rule change in stock that might allow you to extend the bar past the firewall now. Worth checking it out.

Bobby DiDomenico 09-08-2016 08:03 AM

Re: 66 chevy ll cage
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Goldman (Post 513017)
I usually use the 33% figure as a rule of thumb, since most cars done in the last 20 years have .134"wall ERW tube instead of .120 DOM
Average chrome moly roll cage weighs around the same as a .134" wall mild steel roll bar.
The added safety from a cage in a car like a shoebox Nova is worth the price and even a few pounds.
It's not just how fast you are going any more, you have to consider the 150+mph bullet on 9" tires in the other lane .

170+Tom! Excellent advice. Many years ago at Union Grove on their Wednesday Grudge Night you could enter a trophy class for a few dollars more. I had to run a 9 second Vega in the final with a new street car that I had dialed in at 19 seconds. The drivers father came over to me and told me to "Stay in your lane because my son is going to be coming real fast" to which I replied "This bone stock slowed down car dialed 5 seconds slower than normal will have no problem going straight, it's your son I'm nervous about."


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