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Pete Lanciers 12-13-2021 06:53 PM

New HP posted
 
This just in:

2021 End of Year Stock, Super Stock Horsepower Adjustments Announced
https://www.nhraracer.com/apcm/APCMv...?a=72391&z=132


Horsepower Adjustments – From Competitor Requests
https://www.nhraracer.com/apcm/APCMv...?a=72390&z=132

J.R. Haddad 12-13-2021 08:00 PM

Re: New HP posted
 
I must have confused something. I didn't think you could apply for a
H.P. reduction if your combo had already received horsepower.

J.R.

Glenn Briglio 12-13-2021 08:34 PM

Re: New HP posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by J.R. Haddad (Post 653747)
I must have confused something. I didn't think you could apply for a
H.P. reduction if your combo had already received horsepower.

J.R.

That's what I was told........hmmm must be a special case

rboyle 12-13-2021 10:21 PM

Re: New HP posted
 
Which combo received the refund of HP that was penalized recently? Just curious as I have no idea.

Larry Hill 12-13-2021 10:28 PM

Re: New HP posted
 
The sad part of this is, in three engine NHRA did not follow the rules, ie. the most reduction a combo can receive on a request is 2.25% with any part of a fraction being rounded up to the next number.

Three engines with incorrect Hp reduction are
287hp x2.25%= 6.4575 rounded up to 7 hp. 287 -7 = 280 hp not the 279 hp showed.

255hp x 2.25% = 5.7375 hp rounded up to 6hp. 255 -6 =249 hp not the 245hp showed.

207hp x 2.25% = 4.6575 Hp rounded up to 5hp. 207- 5 = 202 hp not the 201 showed.

Two out of the three mistakes could be typos but not the reduction of 10 hp on the 255 hp engine with a reduction of ten hp

Like my friend Al would say “ It doesn’t cost a thing to pay attention “

A 10 hp reduction on the 255 hp engine is 3.91% reduction the largest reduction listed is 2.25%,
go figure !

Paul Wong 12-14-2021 12:13 AM

Re: New HP posted
 
A 10 hp reduction was because of a previous clerical error. Not a basic reduction in horsepower request.

Glenn Briglio 12-14-2021 07:42 AM

Re: New HP posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 653754)
The sad part of this is, in three engine NHRA did not follow the rules, ie. the most reduction a combo can receive on a request is 2.25% with any part of a fraction being rounded up to the next number.

Three engines with incorrect Hp reduction are
287hp x2.25%= 6.4575 rounded up to 7 hp. 287 -7 = 280 hp not the 279 hp showed.

255hp x 2.25% = 5.7375 hp rounded up to 6hp. 255 -6 =249 hp not the 245hp showed.

207hp x 2.25% = 4.6575 Hp rounded up to 5hp. 207- 5 = 202 hp not the 201 showed.

Two out of the three mistakes could be typos but not the reduction of 10 hp on the 255 hp engine with a reduction of ten hp

Like my friend Al would say “ It doesn’t cost a thing to pay attention “

A 10 hp reduction on the 255 hp engine is 3.91% reduction the largest reduction listed is 2.25%,
go figure !

How do you get a decrease in hp when the old hp is higher than factory hp on two combo's listed?

Larry Hill 12-14-2021 08:07 AM

Re: New HP posted
 
The AHFS is a program based on actual run data compiled from all available runs at NHRA national events. The data-based format provides the ability to calculate average performances for any class and/or engine combination in Stock and Super Stock. The trigger point for the system is 1.00-second or more under the respective index, and must be produced on two different occasions. Engine-combination averages and class averages are then computed and analyzed to determine if a change is warranted. The amount of change is calculated on a stepped percentage basis. Where applicable, adjustments will be effective for the specific car model or body style being evaluated. An automatic adjustment is instituted outside the two-time a year process when a 1.20 and under run is recorded during any NHRA event.

Does the last sentence in the above paragraph end the not in play AHFS at National Opens?

J.R. Haddad 12-14-2021 09:00 AM

Re: New HP posted
 
Larry, would the first sentence make it run data only from "Nhra National
Events" ?

J.R.

KRatcliff 12-14-2021 09:07 AM

Re: New HP posted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry Hill (Post 653766)
The AHFS is a program based on actual run data compiled from all available runs at NHRA national events. The data-based format provides the ability to calculate average performances for any class and/or engine combination in Stock and Super Stock. The trigger point for the system is 1.00-second or more under the respective index, and must be produced on two different occasions. Engine-combination averages and class averages are then computed and analyzed to determine if a change is warranted. The amount of change is calculated on a stepped percentage basis. Where applicable, adjustments will be effective for the specific car model or body style being evaluated. An automatic adjustment is instituted outside the two-time a year process when a 1.20 and under run is recorded during any NHRA event.

Does the last sentence in the above paragraph end the not in play AHFS at National Opens?

If it did then they would need to take this out of the first paragraph because the two sentences would be in conflict with each other. I don't think anything has changed for the National Opens. It doesn't appear that the AHFS is in effect there.

"No runs made during exempt events, National Opens, test and tune, time trials, 1/8th mile events or races within a race (i.e. Jegs Allstar eliminations, Stock / Super Stock Combos or other races that are not part of a season long points championship) are included in any review."


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