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GaryGoFast 05-12-2008 11:24 AM

Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Just destroyed my 2nd flexplate in aprox 50 starts. I had a JW Wheel along with a CRS Platinum starter, One kickback and I'd lose a couple of teeth on Wheel. I hate to install a retarder, I hear so many bad things about them. I did just purchase a set of 16 volt batteries to replace my 2 red top Optimas, hopefully that will help. Any other thoughts.
14.7:1 CR, 36 degrees timing.

Lou SG2340 05-12-2008 01:39 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
I run a 565 15 t0 1 compression 2 12 volt Delco Batteries. Power Master starter Tci Flex plate. Never any problems in 8 yrs. Suggest u check your tooth pattern & clearance

Bob Verwold 05-12-2008 01:44 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Gary,
My set up is about the same, the engine shop told me to crank the motor over before turning on the ign. and I wouldn't need to mess with retarding it.(keep cranking motor wile turning on ign. Hope this helps some....................

sc1153 05-12-2008 04:26 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou SG2340 (Post 68904)
I run a 565 15 t0 1 compression 2 12 volt Delco Batteries. Power Master starter Tci Flex plate. Never any problems in 8 yrs. Suggest u check your tooth pattern & clearance

I personally went through Gary's Starter / Flexplate mesh and was PERFECT! I dont understand how he keeps banging the flexplate!

Its wierd the thing cranks great and when you hit the ignition switch it lugs hard!

sc1153 05-12-2008 04:37 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GaryGoFast (Post 68892)
Just destroyed my 2nd flexplate in aprox 50 starts. I had a JW Wheel along with a CRS Platinum starter, One kickback and I'd lose a couple of teeth on Wheel. I hate to install a retarder, I hear so many bad things about them. I did just purchase a set of 16 volt batteries to replace my 2 red top Optimas, hopefully that will help. Any other thoughts.
14.7:1 CR, 36 degrees timing.

Gary,

I heard that Pete (H.A.A.C.) has a remote controlled timing advance, and you will keep breaking flexplates until you pay him his $500.00

LOL

H.A.A.C. Racing 05-12-2008 04:56 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Before this goes any further, Gary, I want you to know that I stuck up for you on this one. Chris is way out of line here......... It's only $365.00, I owed you $135.00 for the trailer lock.

P.S. Your batteries are getting weak, I had the same problem, went to 16 volt and ended my problems.

GRIGGS 05-12-2008 09:11 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Garry, you must have been up against my dad last weekend! I didn't realize he went up north.
In all honesty, we both use the 16 volt batteries. I am on my second set. The first ones were the wet cell batteries and they lasted 5 years. I will never use anything but 16 volts from now on. Also, about 3 to 5 hundreths in ET in a back to back test.

Mike Griggs

T Hall 05-12-2008 09:29 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
So what is the consensus? Retards bad or what? I just bought one for my nova, haven't installed it yet. My dads race car has one built into the ign, and has busted teeth a couple of times over the years, coincidentally, someone just happened to mention this to me this past weekend about the retards. Take it back or no? Thanks

GaryGoFast 05-13-2008 12:06 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H.A.A.C. Racing (Post 68932)
Before this goes any further, Gary, I want you to know that I stuck up for you on this one. Chris is way out of line here......... It's only $365.00, I owed you $135.00 for the trailer lock.

P.S. Your batteries are getting weak, I had the same problem, went to 16 volt and ended my problems.

Less the mounting of d/s door which is still pending.........


Bought a Meziere Billet flexplate, 2 Rock 16 v batteries, had my csr platinum & tci 15:1 starters freshened up. We will see.

diceman1530 05-13-2008 07:10 PM

Re: Flexplate Damage vs Timing Retarders
 
Gary,
when i built my new car i put the msd 7 with the timing retard in,big mistake.
i disabled it and went back to spinning motor with ignition off then turning ignition on,was a lot better.
just my experience. ray


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