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Mike Voth 06-29-2010 12:29 PM

Emmons vs Emmons
 
Why is it that everytime an Emmons has to race another Emmons, one ends up broken or giving it away at the starting line?? Personally, I'm sick and tired of this game. If the race isn't going to be run fairly, then leave you *** at home and quit trying to give the "impression" that there's actually going to be a race. If someone needs points worse than another, earn them...just stop with the charades. It's embarassing.

I don't know if this actually happened at Tulsa, but I've witnessed it time and time again. There shouldn't be a hierarchy in sportman racing. If you think this is acceptable, you should declassify yourselves as sportsman racers and move on.

cody pollage 06-29-2010 01:14 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
It's just like the pros. When you have a sponsor you need and got to do everything to make sure one of them cars get a win and first place in the points. Hats off to those guys, they do an excellent job doing that. They are a great bunch of racers, and really nice guys. Wouldn't suprise me if the number 1 isnt on the side of one of their cars this year.

Irv Johns 06-29-2010 01:42 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
Come on give these guys a break. They are great racers and fine people. Who wouldn't lay down for his brother. It's done all the time by different racers. So just go beat them if you have a gripe, but FAMILY rules. Good job boys go get them......

Chris Chaney 06-29-2010 01:46 PM

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All the Emmons are stand up people and i was personally there and watched and Gary's car died and would not start back up and I don't know anyone who was in there situation that would not do the same thing anyways. Awesome people and even better racers

Greg Turk 06-29-2010 01:54 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
Those boys deserve a better fate than the MF'ing they get on here,
for what it is worth, Gary SS car struggled all weekend with performance issues, as for their " race", after pulling in the water Gary's car would not fire, traced later to be a faulty battery charger, and a little technical difficulties in the pits, there was no "games to be played" or any other internet conjecture, it simply was a mechanical failure, that I'm sure if you speak with them instead of running your fingers...will not happen again.
I guess when you have the success they have you are bound to encounter some questions to the team orders and other unfound BS, trust me ....have they done this in the past, sure, will they do it again maybe , but this time there was no funny business. I'm sure Forrest and Charlotte support these boys on their performance, personalable attributes and racing accumen, not for on a who's turn is it to win today mentality;).
Good luck finding the smoking gun on this one!!!
I race these boys all the time, maybe I should look into a "deal " next time we meet!!! Yeah right!!!
Flame on.................
Turkman

LARRY DEFORREST 06-29-2010 02:21 PM

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Mike,
Just for arguments sake lets just say that you and your Dad were at a race with 2 cars and it was REALLY important that he won the round.... I find it hard to believe that you would try to cut him off at the knees... I do know for sure that Gary "this" time did have mechanical issues all weekend. We were on the phone with him numerous times looking at the injection tuneup and trying to figure some things out. Remember there are LOTS of issues that enter into the race today. Unfortunately it isn't a good ole boys race at the local track any more with the costs etc. Cut them some slack they really are good guys!
Larry DeForrest

Ed Wright 06-29-2010 02:44 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
These are great guys that do a great job. I don't fault them at all. Gary's car did have problems all weekend. This one was for real, if that really matters.

Mike Voth 06-29-2010 02:45 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
These guys ARE great people. It's not about that. We experienced this first-hand at Dallas (if I remember right). Lost to one of them and that car instantly went into the trailer. If we would have won, we would had a shot at another brother, but instead we get "The car doesn't have all the contingency decals on it, so it wouldn't be worth winning the race". Henceforth, brother number two gets a bye next round. THAT's BS!! We all have struggles from time to time. It's just when you see this repeated, people tend to lose the benefit of the doubt, even if it's not intentional. Like I said, I didn't know if that was what happened in Tulsa, but I'm glad to know it wasn't intentional. There's just too much bogus stuff happening in the world today. We have to keep some things pure. I was in a mood here in my office earlier, I guess I'll step back down from my soapbox. I didn't mean to ruffle feathers, just making an observation.

Larry - My dad and I have always felt that there should never be a thrown race. That has been prevelant in the PRO's over the years. It might be different if we were in that situation, but I highly doubt it. If the season came down to a round between the two of us, it would be "better luck next year", in my opinion, and I know he would want the same.

Walker4108 06-29-2010 02:49 PM

Re: Emmons vs Emmons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Turk (Post 195141)
Those boys deserve a better fate than the MF'ing they get on here,
for what it is worth, Gary SS car struggled all weekend with performance issues, as for their " race", after pulling in the water Gary's car would not fire, traced later to be a faulty battery charger, and a little technical difficulties in the pits, there was no "games to be played" or any other internet conjecture, it simply was a mechanical failure, that I'm sure if you speak with them instead of running your fingers...will not happen again.
I guess when you have the success they have you are bound to encounter some questions to the team orders and other unfound BS, trust me ....have they done this in the past, sure, will they do it again maybe , but this time there was no funny business. I'm sure Forrest and Charlotte support these boys on their performance, personalable attributes and racing accumen, not for on a who's turn is it to win today mentality;).
Good luck finding the smoking gun on this one!!!
I race these boys all the time, maybe I should look into a "deal " next time we meet!!! Yeah right!!!
Flame on.................
Turkman

I totally agree....Maybe Mike's just made because the last couple times "Da Boys" came to the big dance in Kansas Gary left with the Wally with NO help from team rules.

Ed Wright 06-29-2010 02:52 PM

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None of those boys need help.


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