CLASS RACER FORUM - 1967 ss/ea

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Jimmy,

The first year for the expanded Super/Stock classes was in
1967.
First utilized at the Winternationals at Pomona (January 1967)
SS/A thru SS/E (10 classes; 5 manual and 5 automatic)

The SS/E class weight/horsepower break was 9.48 and up.

The primary cars were;
SS/E.......1967 Chevrolet Z-28 Camaro 302/290 HP (2955 lbs.)
SS/EA....1967 Plymouth GTX 440/375 HP (3604 lbs.)

At the start of the year, a 13.03 minimum was set for SS/EA.
Then dropped to 12.90 (February 1967)
Then dropped to 12.70 (April 1967)

Paul

Cars that qualified for SS/E or SS/EA in 1967.

PLYMOUTH
67' GTX 440/375 HP (#3604 lbs.)
65' Belvedere 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3516 lbs.)
64' Fury (convertible) 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3482 lbs.)
64' Belvedere 383/330 HP (#3330 lbs.)
63' Belvedere 383/330 HP (#3267 lbs.)
62' Sport Fury 383/343 HP (dual-quad) (#3272 lbs.)

DODGE
67' R/T 440/375 HP (#3641 lbs.)
67' Charger 440/375 HP (#3728 lbs.)
65' Coronet 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3550 lbs.)
64' Polara (convertible) 426/365 HP Street-Wedge (#3471 lbs.)
64' Model #330 383/330 HP (#3313 lbs.)
63' Model #330 383/330 HP (#3261 lbs.)
62' Model #440 383/343 HP (dual-quad) (#3261 lbs.)

FORD
67' Mustang GT 390/320 HP (#3075 lbs.)
66' Mercury Cyclone GT 390/335 HP (#3313 lbs.)
66' Galaxie 500 XL 427/410 HP (#3887 lbs.)

Cars That Qualified for SS/E or SS/EA in 1967;

PONTIAC
67' GTO 400/360 HP (#3424 lbs.)
67' Firebrid 400/325 HP (non-Ram Air) (#3190 lbs.)
66' GTO 389/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3444 lbs.)
65' GTO 389/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3467 lbs.)
64' GTO 389/348 HP (Tri-Power) (#3306 lbs.)
63' Catalina 421/370 HP (#3682 lbs.)

OLDSMOBILE
67' 4-4-2 400/360 HP (#3451 lbs.)
66' 4-4-2 400/360 HP (Tri-Power) (#3452 lbs.)
65' 4-4-2 400/345 HP (#3395 lbs.)

BUICK
67' Gran Sport 400/340 HP (#3451 lbs.)
66' Gran Sport 401/332 HP (#3520 lbs.)
65' Gran Sport 401/325 HP (#3393 lbs.)

Cars That Qualified For SS/E or SS/EA in 1967;

CHEVROLET
67' Z-28 Camaro 302/290 HP (#2955 lbs.)
67' Camaro 350/295 HP (#2991 lbs.)
67' Camaro 396/325 HP (manual) (#3161 lbs.)
67' Camaro 396/325 HP (automatic) (#3217 lbs.)
67' Biscayne/Bel Air 427/385 HP (#3730 lbs.)
67' Chevelle SS 396 396/350 HP (#3337 lbs.)
66' Biscayne/Bel Air 427/390 HP (#3720 lbs.)
66' Chevelle SS 396 396/360 HP (convertible) (#3468 lbs.)

Jimmy,

Dick Arons set the SS/EA E.T. record in August 1967.
12.13 @ 118.11

Dick also made it to the 1967 Wolrd Finals at Tulsa, Oklahoma.
He was Super/Stock Eliminator Runner-up.
Lost to Ed Miller's 65 SS/A Hemi Plymouth.
Dick cornered the traction problem at Tulsa, with the 396/325 HP automatic
67' Camaro.

Gene Takash with a 67' R/T 440/375 HP won the SS/EA class at
the 67' Indy Nationals.

pc

Jimmy,

In 1967,
Dick Arons car was a 1967 Camaro coupe, and painted maroon.
An L-35 396/325 HP automatic.
Ran in SS/EA.
1( Won the Super/Stock Magazine Nationals at Cecil County in June 1967.
2) Set SS/EA recored with a 12.13.
3) Super/Stock Eliminator Runner-Up at the 1967 NHRA World Finals
at Tulsa, Oklahoma.

He also had a 396/325 HP Camaro convertible.

pc

PC interesting info on the 67 SS/EA class and the various cars. I'll have to dig around for some more old photo's of these cars, and it seems that most of the 383 & 440 powered Dodge & Plymouth's were in this class and the 426 Hemi powered B-body cars were in SS/B & SS/D classes from what I've seen.
http://inlinethumb38.webshots.com/44...600x600Q85.jpg

http://classracer.com/classforum/att...6&d=1308104134

Hey PC, I'm going to use some of those PM's that you sent me on this subject,
I hope you don't mind...

PC:
In early 1967, Sox & Martin ran a 67' GTX 440 in SS/E.

That car won the SS/E class at the 67' NHRA Springnationals. It had run a best of 11.95 in beating the 67' Z-28's.

They also had the 67' Hemi GTX car (non Ram Air).

In April they got the 67' R/O Hemi Belvedere from Gate City Motors in North Carolina. That gave them (3) B-Body cars.

Of course they lettered the R/O Belvedere with GTX markings, which confused everyone.

HM:
Good info there, but I thought that they only ran two cars in 1967, the S&M 1967 440 GTX and the S&M 1967 Hemi GTX with a RO Hemi scoop added on, I didn't know they ran a third car. So are all of these S&M cars accounted for, or is there still one missing? There are a few big collectors out there, but I'm sure you know who they are.

PC:
I thought they only had (2) also,

The 67' 440 GTX was delivered in November 66.

The 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops) was delivered in December 1966.

Both cars were at the 67' Winternationals (January 67' ) in Pomona.

The 67 R/O Belvedere (w/GTX lettering) was purchased (yes purchased!!) by Buddy Martin from Gate City Motors. I believe it was March or April.

If you look closely at the 68' NHRA Springnationals, Ronnie Sox was driving the 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops), not the R/O. The GTX had bucket seats, the R/O a bench seat.

HM:
Good stuff, damn you have a very sharp eye, you should post some of this info / stats in the 67 SS/EA thread, it's very interesting.

PC:
I have a keen eye for the Mopars. Of course I have to be careful what I post, because many of the Sox & Martin guys proclaim to know everything.

Here's one, everyone thinks that the Carroll Fink 67' SS/DA that won the 70' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals was the ex-Sox & Martin R/O.

But Carroll Fink stated the he just painted the car in the Sox & Martin scheme, to fool everyone.

He bought his car from Hamilton Motors in Detroit. He also put on GTX badging. I just found that out.

HM:
PC that's some more interesting info you have there, and I remember seeing that old photo of Carroll Fink's 67 Hemi RO Belvedere aka the GTX, I think I have that shot some where's, I'll try to dig it up later.

PC:
I am as confused as everyone else... I just read the article, where Carroll Fink was quoted on his car. He said he got a deal on the Hamilton Motors car, something he would not have gotten from Sox & Martin.

Many guys with the R/O just switched out the front grille, popped on the Belvedere/GTX badge, and put on the GTX chrome flip-top gas cap. They did make the car look a little sharper.

You know Sox & Martin had to have Plymouth send them cars (out the back door) to help keep them solvent. They dumped many cars out there. Not all were their true drag-race cars.

HM:
I can't remember my comment or maybe I didn't reply back. I guess I had no comment because I was still stunned, so take your pick because I don't recall what the hell I said?

PC:
I have to check my magazine files. After Sox & Martin won the 68' Springnationals with the 67' Hemi GTX (SS/D).

I believe they focused on the;
68' SS/B Hemi Barracuda (and back-up car)
68' SS/C Hemi Road Runner
68' SS/D Hemi GTX
68' SS/F GTX 440

Chrysler-Plymouth was fickle on staying with the current year cars, primarily with the factory-backed teams. They were not keen on seeing older (last year model) cars winning. That's why so many of their cars were sold.

HM:
I hope everyone here enjoyed this little discussion, but would like to here from some of the brand x crowd out there about some old Chevy & Ford stories & photo's from back in the day!
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