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Bobby DiDomenico 08-26-2013 01:21 PM

1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
Can someone tell me which one is legal?
Was looking at one Saturday and it had the Firebird spoiler installed with the rounded qtr panel end caps. I only recall the trunk mounted duckbill style and then the straight blade type which retained the same straight edge being longer on the qtr panel. The owner said they used Pontiac parts on the Z-28's. ??? Don't want to buy any more stuff that needs to be fixed.
Thanks

Doug McCue 08-26-2013 01:57 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
I would put the trunk lid spoiler on. I think the larger spoiler came out in 1971.

rick lester 08-26-2013 03:21 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
The larger spoiler was an option, was built to use in the Trans Am series, in 1970. The short spoiler was known to produce lift, something like -200 of downforce, at high speeds on the road courses, Taller 3 piece spoiler produces something like 600? pounds of downforce. I would think both are legal, along with no spoiler since both were options.

Doug McCue 08-26-2013 03:25 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
The Nasty Z site quotes the three piece as a COPO option for 1970 although there were not many installed at the dealers.

dannyboy 08-27-2013 08:00 AM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
Factory Installed on 70 1/2 Z-28

Bobby DiDomenico 08-27-2013 09:02 AM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
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Thanks guys, interesting information there.

This is what I recall, the deck lid model.

The spoiler on this Camaro is this Pontiac Trans Am one with the rounded end caps. I have never seen a Camaro with the TA rear spoiler on it from the factory.

I thought the "blade" model was Camaro only.

james schaechter 08-27-2013 10:15 AM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
If you could run a front spoiler and have no rear spoiler, I would think that would be preferred for a stocker.

Jeff Kempton 08-27-2013 12:33 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby DiDomenico (Post 396502)

The spoiler on this Camaro is this Pontiac Trans Am one with the rounded end caps. I have never seen a Camaro with the TA rear spoiler on it from the factory.

Bobby; while I can only offer my opinion, I've had quite a few of these cars and have learned a thing or two about them over the years. I've never heard of a 2nd Gen Camaro that ever had the Firebird rounded 3 piece rear spoiler factory installed. The only spoiler that should be on there is either the low 1 piece or the straight edged 3 piece that you've mentioned.

I suspect that the car you're looking at had the wrong spoiler installed by a previous owner, or by the dealership at a customer's request, and the story you were told by the current owner was dreamed up to "legitimize" it. If you do buy that car and don't change it to a Camaro spoiler be prepared to be debating it being there with every Camaro guy that sees it! LOL

FED 387 08-27-2013 01:51 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
Coupla things !!!!
first---the RPO D80 rear spoiler for 1970 Camaro is the low version-- unless you have either a COPO 9796 car or one of a very few cars built in late spring for racers

second ----COPO 9796 rear spoilers are the 3 piece high spoilers as used on 1971 cars

third ---the COPO 9796 spoiler used the inside Firebird piece with SPECIAL end pieces fabricated to fit the Camaro

fourth ---for 1971 until the supply of low spoilers was used up some 71 cars may have been equipped with 70 spoilers but most were equipped with the new high spoiler when RPO D80 was selected
fifth----using the low profile spoiler actually increases lift at the rear of the vehicle (like 120 pounds) VS. about 280 pounds of down force on the high profile spoiler

Jeff Kempton 08-27-2013 08:26 PM

Re: 1970 1/2 - 1971 Camaro rear spoiler?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FED 387 (Post 396529)
Coupla things !!!!
first---the RPO D80 rear spoiler for 1970 Camaro is the low version-- unless you have either a COPO 9796 car or one of a very few cars built in late spring for racers

second ----COPO 9796 rear spoilers are the 3 piece high spoilers as used on 1971 cars

third ---the COPO 9796 spoiler used the inside Firebird piece with SPECIAL end pieces fabricated to fit the Camaro

fourth ---for 1971 until the supply of low spoilers was used up some 71 cars may have been equipped with 70 spoilers but most were equipped with the new high spoiler when RPO D80 was selected
fifth----using the low profile spoiler actually increases lift at the rear of the vehicle (like 120 pounds) VS. about 280 pounds of down force on the high profile spoiler

I had to read your post a couple of times before I saw that basically you said what I said....the rounded Firebird end caps were not used on a Camaro. The center piece of the spoiler is the same whether it was used on the Camaro or the Firebird. I never mentioned that because I figured Bobby was more interested in whether the rounded ends were correct on Camaros.

And you're right about the low spoiler also being installed on early '71s. I had an early '71 Z/28 with the low spoiler, as well as two later '71s with the 3 piece spoiler.


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