Re: 1967 ss/ea
Hey PC, I'm going to use some of those PM's that you sent me on this subject,
I hope you don't mind...
PC:
In early 1967, Sox & Martin ran a 67' GTX 440 in SS/E.
That car won the SS/E class at the 67' NHRA Springnationals. It had run a best of 11.95 in beating the 67' Z-28's.
They also had the 67' Hemi GTX car (non Ram Air).
In April they got the 67' R/O Hemi Belvedere from Gate City Motors in North Carolina. That gave them (3) B-Body cars.
Of course they lettered the R/O Belvedere with GTX markings, which confused everyone.
HM:
Good info there, but I thought that they only ran two cars in 1967, the S&M 1967 440 GTX and the S&M 1967 Hemi GTX with a RO Hemi scoop added on, I didn't know they ran a third car. So are all of these S&M cars accounted for, or is there still one missing? There are a few big collectors out there, but I'm sure you know who they are.
PC:
I thought they only had (2) also,
The 67' 440 GTX was delivered in November 66.
The 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops) was delivered in December 1966.
Both cars were at the 67' Winternationals (January 67' ) in Pomona.
The 67 R/O Belvedere (w/GTX lettering) was purchased (yes purchased!!) by Buddy Martin from Gate City Motors. I believe it was March or April.
If you look closely at the 68' NHRA Springnationals, Ronnie Sox was driving the 67' GTX Hemi (w/fake scoops), not the R/O. The GTX had bucket seats, the R/O a bench seat.
HM:
Good stuff, damn you have a very sharp eye, you should post some of this info / stats in the 67 SS/EA thread, it's very interesting.
PC:
I have a keen eye for the Mopars. Of course I have to be careful what I post, because many of the Sox & Martin guys proclaim to know everything.
Here's one, everyone thinks that the Carroll Fink 67' SS/DA that won the 70' Super/Stock Magazine Nationals was the ex-Sox & Martin R/O.
But Carroll Fink stated the he just painted the car in the Sox & Martin scheme, to fool everyone.
He bought his car from Hamilton Motors in Detroit. He also put on GTX badging. I just found that out.
HM:
PC that's some more interesting info you have there, and I remember seeing that old photo of Carroll Fink's 67 Hemi RO Belvedere aka the GTX, I think I have that shot some where's, I'll try to dig it up later.
PC:
I am as confused as everyone else... I just read the article, where Carroll Fink was quoted on his car. He said he got a deal on the Hamilton Motors car, something he would not have gotten from Sox & Martin.
Many guys with the R/O just switched out the front grille, popped on the Belvedere/GTX badge, and put on the GTX chrome flip-top gas cap. They did make the car look a little sharper.
You know Sox & Martin had to have Plymouth send them cars (out the back door) to help keep them solvent. They dumped many cars out there. Not all were their true drag-race cars.
HM:
I can't remember my comment or maybe I didn't reply back. I guess I had no comment because I was still stunned, so take your pick because I don't recall what the hell I said?
PC:
I have to check my magazine files. After Sox & Martin won the 68' Springnationals with the 67' Hemi GTX (SS/D).
I believe they focused on the;
68' SS/B Hemi Barracuda (and back-up car)
68' SS/C Hemi Road Runner
68' SS/D Hemi GTX
68' SS/F GTX 440
Chrysler-Plymouth was fickle on staying with the current year cars, primarily with the factory-backed teams. They were not keen on seeing older (last year model) cars winning. That's why so many of their cars were sold.
HM:
I hope everyone here enjoyed this little discussion, but would like to here from some of the brand x crowd out there about some old Chevy & Ford stories & photo's from back in the day!
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Last edited by Hemi Moose; 06-26-2011 at 01:00 PM.
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