Carb spacers

SST159 · 12-24-2011, 05:06 PM

Any one try a 1" Super Sucker with an under carb throttle stop vs open hole 1" spacer?
SBC using a Super Victor Junior manifold and 4150 carb.
Also any preferene of the plastic vs the aluminum other than heat barrier?

pmrphil · 12-25-2011, 06:10 PM

Hey Drew. Super Victor or Victor Junior? Both will benefit with the Super Sucker, if it's big enough cubes the Super Victor will work(with a good head) I prefer the Victor Jr. with a 2" Super Sucker if you have the room.

SST159 · 12-26-2011, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pmrphil

Hey Drew. Super Victor or Victor Junior? Both will benefit with the Super Sucker, if it's big enough cubes the Super Victor will work(with a good head) I prefer the Victor Jr. with a 2" Super Sucker if you have the room.

Phil,
Thanks for the repsponse. Sorry the intake is Super Victor not Junior. Not alot of cubes 357 but motor does make decent power as is. I have been using a open hole 1" spacer under the TS but am told by a few good sources the super sucker works well. Just wondering if anyone ever tried them under a Throttle stop and what the results were.

Dave Steltz · 12-26-2011, 05:38 PM

Drew, ran one on the roadster, made no difference...actually ran the best with no spacer..
Tim ran one and it ran worse...he runs his a little lower on RPM than some, and it made it worse...

Isnt the super victor taller in the plenum than a victor ? Have you tried with no spacer
?

kenny v · 12-27-2011, 01:14 PM

Drew I put a 2inch 4 hole on Donny's car and it picked up. He put the base plate stop back on so if you would like to try one I mite let you use it.

Rick Bailey · 12-27-2011, 01:59 PM

see here;

http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...404#3361069404

Rick

pmrphil · 12-27-2011, 10:57 PM

Hi Drew
With the Super Victor and small cube, it would probably not make all that much difference in HP, maybe a bit better throttle response though. I have tested with them under the stop and had positive results, but not with big intake/small cube. Holler if you want to try one.

SST159 · 12-28-2011, 06:23 PM

Thanks guys for the input.
Rick, your testing results were interesting thanks.
Phil, thanks for the input as well.
Dave, actually the previous testing on my combo was always with open spacers.
Never tried the 4 hole (always told it provides bottom end power which I certainly dont need) but the SS has somewhat a unique configuration that sounds interesting to try. You know me I am always trying new things. Hey ya never know.
I would like to try the no spacer option as well but the linkage needs to be shortened to do so which would be a pain in the azz to do at the track.
Ken, thanks for the offer but it cost me too much beer when I borough your parts so I figure its less costly to just purchase a new spacer.
All kidding aside I think with my manifold (tall) along with the Throttle stop, the 2" four hole may be a bit too much. That being said I am going to try the 1" SS vs the 1" open hole and see what works better.
Stay Tuned!

Dave Steltz · 12-28-2011, 06:31 PM

Drew, I'll be watching,as now I have a small valve cover motor like you...Mine is a regular Victor Jr, with a 1/2 inch spacer for the primer plus, plus the TS...One "small" diff is that I'm running an alky carb vs parts washer...plus some more cubes (406)...

I really think that you should go south (maybe Florida or Georgia) and do some testing before the season starts so that I have a baseline to start the year with...

Rick Bailey · 12-28-2011, 08:44 PM

As a update........ I did switch to the 454-r intake and it was a improvement even more, the dart was just too large for my engine.

Rick

12-24-2011, 05:06 PM	#1
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 301 Likes: 4 Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Carb spacers Any one try a 1" Super Sucker with an under carb throttle stop vs open hole 1" spacer? SBC using a Super Victor Junior manifold and 4150 carb. Also any preferene of the plastic vs the aluminum other than heat barrier? __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

12-25-2011, 06:10 PM	#2
pmrphil Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 397 Likes: 1,282 Liked 263 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Hey Drew. Super Victor or Victor Junior? Both will benefit with the Super Sucker, if it's big enough cubes the Super Victor will work(with a good head) I prefer the Victor Jr. with a 2" Super Sucker if you have the room. __________________ Phil Molski PMR Performance S/C 1623

12-26-2011, 05:38 PM	#4
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Drew, ran one on the roadster, made no difference...actually ran the best with no spacer.. Tim ran one and it ran worse...he runs his a little lower on RPM than some, and it made it worse... Isnt the super victor taller in the plenum than a victor ? Have you tried with no spacer ? __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

12-27-2011, 01:14 PM	#5
kenny v Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: kingston ny Posts: 106 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Drew I put a 2inch 4 hole on Donny's car and it picked up. He put the base plate stop back on so if you would like to try one I mite let you use it. __________________ Kenny V S/ST,S/G,S/PRO 100V

12-27-2011, 01:59 PM	#6
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Carb spacers see here; http://drr.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/t...404#3361069404 Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC

12-27-2011, 10:57 PM	#7
pmrphil Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: CT Posts: 397 Likes: 1,282 Liked 263 Times in 114 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Hi Drew With the Super Victor and small cube, it would probably not make all that much difference in HP, maybe a bit better throttle response though. I have tested with them under the stop and had positive results, but not with big intake/small cube. Holler if you want to try one. __________________ Phil Molski PMR Performance S/C 1623

12-28-2011, 06:23 PM	#8
SST159 Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 301 Likes: 4 Liked 18 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Thanks guys for the input. Rick, your testing results were interesting thanks. Phil, thanks for the input as well. Dave, actually the previous testing on my combo was always with open spacers. Never tried the 4 hole (always told it provides bottom end power which I certainly dont need) but the SS has somewhat a unique configuration that sounds interesting to try. You know me I am always trying new things. Hey ya never know. I would like to try the no spacer option as well but the linkage needs to be shortened to do so which would be a pain in the azz to do at the track. Ken, thanks for the offer but it cost me too much beer when I borough your parts so I figure its less costly to just purchase a new spacer. All kidding aside I think with my manifold (tall) along with the Throttle stop, the 2" four hole may be a bit too much. That being said I am going to try the 1" SS vs the 1" open hole and see what works better. Stay Tuned! __________________ Drew Wonderly SST 159

12-28-2011, 06:31 PM	#9
Dave Steltz Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 323 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Carb spacers Drew, I'll be watching,as now I have a small valve cover motor like you...Mine is a regular Victor Jr, with a 1/2 inch spacer for the primer plus, plus the TS...One "small" diff is that I'm running an alky carb vs parts washer...plus some more cubes (406)... I really think that you should go south (maybe Florida or Georgia) and do some testing before the season starts so that I have a baseline to start the year with... __________________ Dave Steltz 135G SG/SP/SST BIAECH Racing Team

12-28-2011, 08:44 PM	#10
Rick Bailey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 502 Likes: 5 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Carb spacers As a update........ I did switch to the 454-r intake and it was a improvement even more, the dart was just too large for my engine. Rick __________________ Rick Bailey 3439 SC