Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll)

[JP1738]

Lets get an honest poll going here. To satisfy my curiosity, I'd like to see how folks really feel.

Whether you like it or not, do you believe adding a new manufacturer to the guide is a good thing? Do you agree with the way Gump's car was prepared?

[JP1738]

Wow, just like I'd guessed. 50% good, 50% bad/don't care so far.

[J.R. Haddad]

Dawson, I've enjoyed watching the results of your poll so far. It's interesting,
a lot of us think of ourselves as Stock Purists, which really means old,
and some are up in arms about the trans and rear end in this project.
Yet, I can build a 1956 Chevrolet for Stock Eliminator, and put in a 12 Bolt
Rear, and a metric 200 3 speed trans, neither were available to that car.
If we want Stock to live, and we do, then newer style cars will have to
continue to be introduced to the eliminator. To make most of them
raceable, we can't have tiny, complicated 10 speed automatics, rear ends
that won't survive a burnout, etc. Perhaps the "New" Purists will have to learn that the body and motor have to be pure, but any automotive rear
end, and transmission with 3 forward gears are the future.

J.R.

[RKelliher]

your poll says net good, net bad instead of not good, not bad

[RKelliher]

also JR, your car is a gm car, you can run a gm 12-bolt and a gm metric 200, but you can't run a dana rear or ford rear end in stock. what gm trans did toyota use.

[Justin Graham]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

your poll says net good, net bad instead of not good, not bad

I’m certain it’s a play on words. I do it a lot. It’s like gonna or gunna instead of going to….

Competition begets competition, it’s all relative to what we do. I’m guessing it’s the homologation of parts making a Toyota legal in Stock Eliminator that some folks don’t like. There must be something legal for it to happen, which apparently it’s just that…going to happen. I doubt GUMP would invest in it, if he didn’t feel it was possible. Sub 9 sec runs have become a norm, it’ll just be weird seeing a Toyota Supra at or near the top of the sheet.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

also JR, your car is a gm car, you can run a gm 12-bolt and a gm metric 200, but you can't run a dana rear or ford rear end in stock. what gm trans did toyota use.

But that Camaro Stocker that he drives has a 9"....

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

...what gm trans did toyota use.

The Supra was built as a joint venture with BMW. Hence the B58 engine. BMW has a history of running GM transmissions.....

In my opinion, everyone should be able to replace their 40 year old case with an SFI three speed. But that is a thought for another day....

[Mike Pearson]

Originally Posted by GUMP

But that Camaro Stocker that he drives has a 9"....

I think the COPO Camaro came from the factory with the 9 inch. Not Ford but Strange. That is the difference. The street version cannot run the 9 inch.
I would say that Supra would be more of a comp car.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Mike Pearson

I think the COPO Camaro came from the factory with the 9 inch. Not Ford but Strange.

True.

....The street version cannot run the 9 inch.

It ABSOLUTELY can!!

I would say that Supra would be more of a comp car.

LOL! It also has a Strange rear. And, it has been built using the existing rules to run Stock Eliminator.