Automatic Horsepower Factoring System

Ken Miele · 04-01-2008, 07:27 PM

Maybe someone else has also noticed this, but have they changed the AHFS again or did I just miss the final ruling. A few months ago the AHFS stated that the quickest run of the event over 1.15 would count toward a review if done twice in one review period at different events not twice at one event, now it says...

"Final qualifying and elimination runs of 1.15 seconds or more, under the index, at NHRA national events will trigger an automatic review. (The combination must make at least two runs of 1.15 or quicker before a review is triggered to prevent a "one time fast run" from triggering the system.)"

From reading the above statement it sounds like they will count all runs over 1.15 even if it is at the same event to trigger a review

Another part saying all class runs also will count is gone.

Maybe I missed something, or do I not understand the new system.

Jim Cimarolli · 04-01-2008, 07:53 PM

Kenny, I'm not sure what their interpretation of that stupid system is this week but they need to scrap the damned thing IMO. Its basically keeping me on the sidelines, who wants to go out and get himself hit? The AHFS is destroying the backbone of our eliminator and they are turning it into a saturday night bracket race.

ss3845 · 04-01-2008, 07:53 PM

Kenny,

They must not have updated that page yet. Only the quickest run in the engine family counts and all runs count including class. Copy and paste this link to read it all.

http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85

Jim McBean

Ken Miele · 04-01-2008, 10:14 PM

Jim C, its very confusing.

I have to agree its a tough system to work fairly for everyone and it does put a limit on making a combo fast. In your case there are way to many running your combo that are fast. To be honest its not much fun running someone that has that kind of handicap. Knowing they can't reach there full potential because they will get hammered with hp.

Jim M, thanks man.

I was wondering where that one went. Now which one are they using?

laura Parker · 04-01-2008, 10:25 PM

If this is now the case. Then the more popular the engine combo, the bigger screwing you will get. How the hell does that make any sense. Seems to me it's backwards. Jimmy I agree this is starting to make me sick also. I wish there was a know cure for this disease I have had for thirty years. Barry Parker

Jim Cimarolli · 04-01-2008, 10:57 PM

I think they should go back to an eight person committee on horsepower decisions. There has got to be human input to make final decisions in these matters. Maybe I'm just part of the old guard that is being ushered out, but to me qualifying and class eliminations is an important part of why I love this sport.
We need to be able to race our cars, thats why we work so hard to be here.

JIM BOUDREAU · 04-02-2008, 07:01 AM

Jim, I"m part of the old guard also. I agree with you 100%. We need to do something. The only fun we can have now is to run Top Stock and its going to rain this weekend at atco. Barry, can't wait to see you! Heard you have some new unleased horsepower!!! Gary was filling me on at Gators.

Robert Pare Racing · 04-02-2008, 07:38 AM

Maybe Evan Smith can chime in and help clarify some things...it's beyond confusing to me, and I feel like I have a decent grasp on things..

04-01-2008, 07:27 PM	#1
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,718 Likes: 416 Liked 14,928 Times in 1,378 Posts	Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Maybe someone else has also noticed this, but have they changed the AHFS again or did I just miss the final ruling. A few months ago the AHFS stated that the quickest run of the event over 1.15 would count toward a review if done twice in one review period at different events not twice at one event, now it says... "Final qualifying and elimination runs of 1.15 seconds or more, under the index, at NHRA national events will trigger an automatic review. (The combination must make at least two runs of 1.15 or quicker before a review is triggered to prevent a "one time fast run" from triggering the system.)" From reading the above statement it sounds like they will count all runs over 1.15 even if it is at the same event to trigger a review Another part saying all class runs also will count is gone. Maybe I missed something, or do I not understand the new system.

04-01-2008, 07:53 PM	#2
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 738 Likes: 125 Liked 160 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Kenny, I'm not sure what their interpretation of that stupid system is this week but they need to scrap the damned thing IMO. Its basically keeping me on the sidelines, who wants to go out and get himself hit? The AHFS is destroying the backbone of our eliminator and they are turning it into a saturday night bracket race.

04-01-2008, 07:53 PM	#3
ss3845 Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 53 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Kenny, They must not have updated that page yet. Only the quickest run in the engine family counts and all runs count including class. Copy and paste this link to read it all. http://www.nhra.com/content/sportsma...5919&zoneid=85 Jim McBean

04-01-2008, 10:14 PM	#4
Ken Miele Live Reporter Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 4,718 Likes: 416 Liked 14,928 Times in 1,378 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Jim C, its very confusing. I have to agree its a tough system to work fairly for everyone and it does put a limit on making a combo fast. In your case there are way to many running your combo that are fast. To be honest its not much fun running someone that has that kind of handicap. Knowing they can't reach there full potential because they will get hammered with hp. Jim M, thanks man. I was wondering where that one went. Now which one are they using?

04-01-2008, 10:25 PM	#5
laura Parker Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 14 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System If this is now the case. Then the more popular the engine combo, the bigger screwing you will get. How the hell does that make any sense. Seems to me it's backwards. Jimmy I agree this is starting to make me sick also. I wish there was a know cure for this disease I have had for thirty years. Barry Parker

04-01-2008, 10:57 PM	#6
Jim Cimarolli Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Sulphur Springs Texas Posts: 738 Likes: 125 Liked 160 Times in 45 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System I think they should go back to an eight person committee on horsepower decisions. There has got to be human input to make final decisions in these matters. Maybe I'm just part of the old guard that is being ushered out, but to me qualifying and class eliminations is an important part of why I love this sport. We need to be able to race our cars, thats why we work so hard to be here.

04-02-2008, 07:01 AM	#7
JIM BOUDREAU Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 21 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Jim, I"m part of the old guard also. I agree with you 100%. We need to do something. The only fun we can have now is to run Top Stock and its going to rain this weekend at atco. Barry, can't wait to see you! Heard you have some new unleased horsepower!!! Gary was filling me on at Gators.

04-02-2008, 07:38 AM	#8
Robert Pare Racing Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mother Earth Posts: 265 Likes: 0 Liked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: Automatic Horsepower Factoring System Maybe Evan Smith can chime in and help clarify some things...it's beyond confusing to me, and I feel like I have a decent grasp on things.. __________________ Rapare-Racing.com