Towing In North Carolina

z28camaroman · 09-16-2009, 09:20 PM

Does anyone know about towing car trailers through NC? I got pulled over today on the way to the Charlotte race track by a state trooper. He told me that I have to go over the scales and anything over 10K in gross vehicle weight has to do so. I had never heard of this as I am not commercial. No lettering on my truck or trailer. This cop was an a- hole too. I have to wonder if this applies to personal vehicles and was this guy just being a jerk. Detained me for about an hour, and wrote me a warning ticket. In the 35+ years that I've been towing car trailers, this has never happened anywhere in the country. Ruined my day! I would like to know what NC law states??

Any help appreciated.

Jerry

KingReptile · 09-16-2009, 09:28 PM

He was probally being a jerk you went below the mason dixon line.The cops are always real thick in NC .

Brandon Peterson · 09-16-2009, 09:43 PM

enjoy your stay here in NC......lol........i think anything under 90 foot should be legal now without having to have a CDL or weight limit.....not sure about goose neck trailers and duallys i just know the rule change for motor homes with trailers and big rig haulers...i know there are more people on here that know more about it than me.....hope any of this helps...i dont think you should have gotten pulled over

joe176 · 09-16-2009, 09:58 PM

Jeff Tripp got pulled over for the same reason last year...passing the scales with his dually and fifth wheel trailer....he has since gotten DOT numbers for his truck.

I talked to NYS DOT Officials and was told my deisel pusher w/ 26 ft. tag trailer must pull in to weigh stations also...only if trailer is on the back.

Phillip marvetz · 09-17-2009, 02:17 AM

Don't forget your log book!If you are more than 150 miles from home you are required to fillout a log book. My ticket cost me big money after I decided to fight it.

z28camaroman · 09-17-2009, 04:47 AM

Here's the kicker. My truck is a 2500HD short bed crew cab Chevy truck, not a dually! Trailer is a 26' tag trailer. Truck and trailer was 18,000 lbs total weight.

Jerry

Kirk Morgan · 09-17-2009, 05:44 AM

Iam a DOT inspector in the state of Texas. You dont have to have a DOT for anything under 26000#s. But if they consider your racing a business, such you are trying to make money, the number changes to 10000#s and above. These numbers are based on the GVW#s on your tow rig and trailer. Now you can reregrister your trailer for a lower weight to try to get under this weight, but dont be caught over weight. I think you would have to tow with a S-10 pickup and a open trailer to meet this weight.

Kirk

chris3racing · 09-17-2009, 07:11 AM

There have been a lot of issues in North Carolina over race cars and haulers; however, a couple of years ago all of the laws were change thanks to Steve Earwood at Rockingham and several NASCAR people who got involve. There was a couple of internet post concerning towing in North Carolina. I will try to call Steve now and see if I can get some information concerning your incident. There have been some reports in previous year about troopers who don't know the law.

joe176 · 09-17-2009, 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris3racing

There have been a lot of issues in North Carolina over race cars and haulers; however, a couple of years ago all of the laws were change thanks to Steve Earwood at Rockingham and several NASCAR people who got involve. There was a couple of internet post concerning towing in North Carolina. I will try to call Steve now and see if I can get some information concerning your incident. There have been some reports in previous year about troopers who don't know the law.

Chris your are right...the NYS trooper I spoke to was not sure on the law and pointed me towards the DOT official at the inspection site.

Mike Crutchfield · 09-17-2009, 08:45 AM

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations manual under 390.3(f)(3)
Exceptions. The occasional transporation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in furtherance of a commercial enterprise;

Further research will find this.
Question 21;
Does the exemption in 390.39(f)(3) for the occasional transportation of personal property by individules not for compensation nor in furtherance of commercial enterprise apply to persons who occasionally use CMV's to transport cars, boats,horses, ect., to race, tournaments shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events?

Guidance:
The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided; (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., (a) prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes,and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes; and where relevant;(2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State licensure to determine the licensing provisions to which they are subject.

Hope this helps you.

Mike

09-16-2009, 09:20 PM	#1
z28camaroman Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Eldersburg, MD Posts: 153 Likes: 0 Liked 91 Times in 2 Posts	Towing In North Carolina Does anyone know about towing car trailers through NC? I got pulled over today on the way to the Charlotte race track by a state trooper. He told me that I have to go over the scales and anything over 10K in gross vehicle weight has to do so. I had never heard of this as I am not commercial. No lettering on my truck or trailer. This cop was an a- hole too. I have to wonder if this applies to personal vehicles and was this guy just being a jerk. Detained me for about an hour, and wrote me a warning ticket. In the 35+ years that I've been towing car trailers, this has never happened anywhere in the country. Ruined my day! I would like to know what NC law states?? Any help appreciated. Jerry

09-16-2009, 09:28 PM	#2
KingReptile Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 257 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina He was probally being a jerk you went below the mason dixon line.The cops are always real thick in NC .

09-16-2009, 09:43 PM	#3
Brandon Peterson Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: North Carolina Posts: 436 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina enjoy your stay here in NC......lol........i think anything under 90 foot should be legal now without having to have a CDL or weight limit.....not sure about goose neck trailers and duallys i just know the rule change for motor homes with trailers and big rig haulers...i know there are more people on here that know more about it than me.....hope any of this helps...i dont think you should have gotten pulled over

09-16-2009, 09:58 PM	#4
joe176 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NY Posts: 601 Likes: 36 Liked 41 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Jeff Tripp got pulled over for the same reason last year...passing the scales with his dually and fifth wheel trailer....he has since gotten DOT numbers for his truck. I talked to NYS DOT Officials and was told my deisel pusher w/ 26 ft. tag trailer must pull in to weigh stations also...only if trailer is on the back.

09-17-2009, 02:17 AM	#5
Phillip marvetz Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lynden ,WA Posts: 820 Likes: 0 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Don't forget your log book!If you are more than 150 miles from home you are required to fillout a log book. My ticket cost me big money after I decided to fight it.

09-17-2009, 04:47 AM	#6
z28camaroman Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Eldersburg, MD Posts: 153 Likes: 0 Liked 91 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Here's the kicker. My truck is a 2500HD short bed crew cab Chevy truck, not a dually! Trailer is a 26' tag trailer. Truck and trailer was 18,000 lbs total weight. Jerry

09-17-2009, 05:44 AM	#7
Kirk Morgan Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 226 Likes: 1 Liked 78 Times in 42 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina Iam a DOT inspector in the state of Texas. You dont have to have a DOT for anything under 26000#s. But if they consider your racing a business, such you are trying to make money, the number changes to 10000#s and above. These numbers are based on the GVW#s on your tow rig and trailer. Now you can reregrister your trailer for a lower weight to try to get under this weight, but dont be caught over weight. I think you would have to tow with a S-10 pickup and a open trailer to meet this weight. Kirk

09-17-2009, 07:11 AM	#8
chris3racing Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 528 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina There have been a lot of issues in North Carolina over race cars and haulers; however, a couple of years ago all of the laws were change thanks to Steve Earwood at Rockingham and several NASCAR people who got involve. There was a couple of internet post concerning towing in North Carolina. I will try to call Steve now and see if I can get some information concerning your incident. There have been some reports in previous year about troopers who don't know the law.

09-17-2009, 08:45 AM	#10
Mike Crutchfield Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 84 Likes: 3 Liked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Towing In North Carolina The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations manual under 390.3(f)(3) Exceptions. The occasional transporation of personal property by individuals not for compensation nor in furtherance of a commercial enterprise; Further research will find this. Question 21; Does the exemption in 390.39(f)(3) for the occasional transportation of personal property by individules not for compensation nor in furtherance of commercial enterprise apply to persons who occasionally use CMV's to transport cars, boats,horses, ect., to race, tournaments shows or similar events, even if prize money is offered at these events? Guidance: The exemption would apply to this kind of transportation, provided; (1) The underlying activities are not undertaken for profit, i.e., (a) prize money is declared as ordinary income for tax purposes,and (b) the cost of the underlying activities is not deducted as a business expense for tax purposes; and where relevant;(2) corporate sponsorship is not involved. Drivers must confer with their State licensure to determine the licensing provisions to which they are subject. Hope this helps you. Mike