Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately

Don Kennedy · 08-09-2023, 08:31 AM

Is it just me, but I have noticed at most race tracks this year that the traction issue has gotten worse < Have any other tracks of racers seen this traction issue< I believe? Something has changed this year either the traction compound has been changed, or the manufacturers have changed, or the track are diluting the glue more, or whatever they are doing this year, it is not working.

DG · 08-09-2023, 08:45 AM

Hi Don,

I can't say that I am having traction problems, but with the current version of AHFS I am not hitting the tire very hard. Several sessions of Top Fuel and Funny Car at Sonoma had nearly every car spin. I heard from numerous fans at the race, Friday night and Saturday qualifying was a joke. Several felt they spent way to much money to not be able to see cars get down the track on full runs. They also complained about not having Pro Stock compete. The stands were only 60% full, so having the paying fans that were there, feel like they wasted their money is not a good thing.

Darin Grossi

Billy Nees · 08-09-2023, 11:05 AM

Ya know Don, IMHO (no not IMHO but in my big loud mouthed opinion) if NHRA went back to track-prep that existed of a mop and a broom Sportsman Drag Racing wouldn't be in the position that it's in with 8 second, 160 MPH "Stockers" and 5-10-20 K cylinder heads.
If we actually had to still "hook" what the track would take without having to spray glue on it things would be much different.

Mark Yacavone · 08-09-2023, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Ya know Don, IMHO (no not IMHO but in my big loud mouthed opinion) if NHRA went back to track-prep that existed of a mop and a broom Sportsman Drag Racing wouldn't be in the position that it's in with 8 second, 160 MPH "Stockers" and 5-10-20 K cylinder heads.
If we actually had to still "hook" what the track would take without having to spray glue on it things would be much different.

This reminded me of a post that I've been going to make concerning Stock and it's future.
Don's post is kind of related.. Going to try to do it tonight.

Jeff Stout · 08-09-2023, 04:01 PM

Im not saying the track is perfect, but have you made physical adjustments.? Move weight, loosen front shock, more travel in front. Because you have the best of everything, I have to ask. Optimum to what? If the car has been great with 53.6582% up front, 3 clicks from full loose, 4.5681 inches in front end travel it may not be optimum for the track your at. Im not busting on you Im sure the tracks have been crap, making adjustments is a norm at every track. Having the track come to you is backwards thinking. You need to come to the track. Hope family and you are doing good. Jeff

Don Kennedy · 08-09-2023, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Stout

Im not saying the track is perfect, but have you made physical adjustments.? Move weight, loosen front shock, more travel in front. Because you have the best of everything, I have to ask. Optimum to what? If the car has been great with 53.6582% up front, 3 clicks from full loose, 4.5681 inches in front end travel it may not be optimum for the track your at. Im not busting on you Im sure the tracks have been crap, making adjustments is a norm at every track. Having the track come to you is backwards thinking. You need to come to the track. Hope family and you are doing good. Jeff

I have made many adjustments big time here of course for each track

littlemanjoe · 08-09-2023, 04:06 PM

The tracks have not been the best this year.

I'm not sure what's going on but we notice our cars will hook then they let go a few feet out. My low horsepower car spins and our high horsepower car spins.

I walk out and check the starting line and it is not even sticky.

But with the new rules, you might as well kill the launch. You can't win if you spin.

Mike

Mark Yeager · 08-09-2023, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DG

Hi Don,

I can't say that I am having traction problems, but with the current version of AHFS I am not hitting the tire very hard. Several sessions of Top Fuel and Funny Car at Sonoma had nearly every car spin. I heard from numerous fans at the race, Friday night and Saturday qualifying was a joke. Several felt they spent way to much money to not be able to see cars get down the track on full runs. They also complained about not having Pro Stock compete. The stands were only 60% full, so having the paying fans that were there, feel like they wasted their money is not a good thing.

Darin Grossi

After we were done with our last passes in Super Gas and Top Dragster on Friday night we went to the stands to watch the fuel cars. Qualifying sucked. The Fans were literally booing the cars. As for traction, my S/G car was good in Sonoma. However the starting line was pretty tore up.

Don Kennedy · 08-09-2023, 12:13 PM

Ok this question is to all Track owners,Track Personnel, and Starting line prep People
I have the best Rear tires on the car, the best, most efficient converter, the best 4 link adjustments, the latest and fresh rear shocks and the best fresh front struts.I have lowered the leave chip many times ,I have taken timing out many times,I have adjusted the tire pressure many times > In Stock and Super we are not allowed Traction control < I have one of the top chassis Guru here yesterday Phil Mandella looking over the car nothing is wrong with it. So My question how Can I get my car to hook up On your Track??

MR DERBY CITY · 08-09-2023, 12:23 PM

Well, if you brought in Phil Mandella from California we can all see that you are serious about this. Phil is one great guy …

08-09-2023, 08:31 AM	#1
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,553 Likes: 3,508 Liked 809 Times in 217 Posts	Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Is it just me, but I have noticed at most race tracks this year that the traction issue has gotten worse < Have any other tracks of racers seen this traction issue< I believe? Something has changed this year either the traction compound has been changed, or the manufacturers have changed, or the track are diluting the glue more, or whatever they are doing this year, it is not working. __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS

08-09-2023, 08:45 AM	#2
DG Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 137 Likes: 294 Liked 333 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Hi Don, I can't say that I am having traction problems, but with the current version of AHFS I am not hitting the tire very hard. Several sessions of Top Fuel and Funny Car at Sonoma had nearly every car spin. I heard from numerous fans at the race, Friday night and Saturday qualifying was a joke. Several felt they spent way to much money to not be able to see cars get down the track on full runs. They also complained about not having Pro Stock compete. The stands were only 60% full, so having the paying fans that were there, feel like they wasted their money is not a good thing. Darin Grossi

08-09-2023, 11:05 AM	#3
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,280 Likes: 3,204 Liked 6,978 Times in 1,572 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Ya know Don, IMHO (no not IMHO but in my big loud mouthed opinion) if NHRA went back to track-prep that existed of a mop and a broom Sportsman Drag Racing wouldn't be in the position that it's in with 8 second, 160 MPH "Stockers" and 5-10-20 K cylinder heads. If we actually had to still "hook" what the track would take without having to spray glue on it things would be much different. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS What is "NORMAL"???

08-09-2023, 04:01 PM	#5
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,434 Likes: 55 Liked 680 Times in 269 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Im not saying the track is perfect, but have you made physical adjustments.? Move weight, loosen front shock, more travel in front. Because you have the best of everything, I have to ask. Optimum to what? If the car has been great with 53.6582% up front, 3 clicks from full loose, 4.5681 inches in front end travel it may not be optimum for the track your at. Im not busting on you Im sure the tracks have been crap, making adjustments is a norm at every track. Having the track come to you is backwards thinking. You need to come to the track. Hope family and you are doing good. Jeff

08-09-2023, 04:06 PM	#7
littlemanjoe Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: West Layfayette Posts: 105 Likes: 159 Liked 40 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately The tracks have not been the best this year. I'm not sure what's going on but we notice our cars will hook then they let go a few feet out. My low horsepower car spins and our high horsepower car spins. I walk out and check the starting line and it is not even sticky. But with the new rules, you might as well kill the launch. You can't win if you spin. Mike

08-09-2023, 12:13 PM	#9
Don Kennedy VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Near Portland TN Posts: 1,553 Likes: 3,508 Liked 809 Times in 217 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Ok this question is to all Track owners,Track Personnel, and Starting line prep People I have the best Rear tires on the car, the best, most efficient converter, the best 4 link adjustments, the latest and fresh rear shocks and the best fresh front struts.I have lowered the leave chip many times ,I have taken timing out many times,I have adjusted the tire pressure many times > In Stock and Super we are not allowed Traction control < I have one of the top chassis Guru here yesterday Phil Mandella looking over the car nothing is wrong with it. So My question how Can I get my car to hook up On your Track?? __________________ Don Kennedy 7701 SS Last edited by Don Kennedy; 08-09-2023 at 12:45 PM.

08-09-2023, 12:23 PM	#10
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,363 Likes: 907 Liked 6,764 Times in 1,317 Posts	Re: Spinng on The Line at all NHRA Tracks lately Well, if you brought in Phil Mandella from California we can all see that you are serious about this. Phil is one great guy …