Toyota Supra in Stock Eliminator (Poll)

[JP1738]

Lets get an honest poll going here. To satisfy my curiosity, I'd like to see how folks really feel.

Whether you like it or not, do you believe adding a new manufacturer to the guide is a good thing? Do you agree with the way Gump's car was prepared?

[JP1738]

Wow, just like I'd guessed. 50% good, 50% bad/don't care so far.

[J.R. Haddad]

Dawson, I've enjoyed watching the results of your poll so far. It's interesting,
a lot of us think of ourselves as Stock Purists, which really means old,
and some are up in arms about the trans and rear end in this project.
Yet, I can build a 1956 Chevrolet for Stock Eliminator, and put in a 12 Bolt
Rear, and a metric 200 3 speed trans, neither were available to that car.
If we want Stock to live, and we do, then newer style cars will have to
continue to be introduced to the eliminator. To make most of them
raceable, we can't have tiny, complicated 10 speed automatics, rear ends
that won't survive a burnout, etc. Perhaps the "New" Purists will have to learn that the body and motor have to be pure, but any automotive rear
end, and transmission with 3 forward gears are the future.

J.R.

[RKelliher]

your poll says net good, net bad instead of not good, not bad

[RKelliher]

also JR, your car is a gm car, you can run a gm 12-bolt and a gm metric 200, but you can't run a dana rear or ford rear end in stock. what gm trans did toyota use.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

also JR, your car is a gm car, you can run a gm 12-bolt and a gm metric 200, but you can't run a dana rear or ford rear end in stock. what gm trans did toyota use.

But that Camaro Stocker that he drives has a 9"....

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

...what gm trans did toyota use.

The Supra was built as a joint venture with BMW. Hence the B58 engine. BMW has a history of running GM transmissions.....

In my opinion, everyone should be able to replace their 40 year old case with an SFI three speed. But that is a thought for another day....

[e vassar]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

also JR, your car is a gm car, you can run a gm 12-bolt and a gm metric 200, but you can't run a dana rear or ford rear end in stock. what gm trans did toyota use.

NHRA has been allowing a live axle swap for years in IRS cars..nothing new here. Personally I don't care if it's a 12bolt 9" ford or Chrysler 8 3/4. Maybe NHRA is considering clean up and down time at national events if they mandate a smaller unit.
I think if I was Darren I would be asking for a 12bolt considering parasitic losses with a Ford 9"

[Justin Graham]

Originally Posted by RKelliher

your poll says net good, net bad instead of not good, not bad

I’m certain it’s a play on words. I do it a lot. It’s like gonna or gunna instead of going to….

Competition begets competition, it’s all relative to what we do. I’m guessing it’s the homologation of parts making a Toyota legal in Stock Eliminator that some folks don’t like. There must be something legal for it to happen, which apparently it’s just that…going to happen. I doubt GUMP would invest in it, if he didn’t feel it was possible. Sub 9 sec runs have become a norm, it’ll just be weird seeing a Toyota Supra at or near the top of the sheet.

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by Justin Graham

I?m certain it?s a play on words. I do it a lot. It?s like gonna or gunna instead of going to?.

Competition begets competition, it?s all relative to what we do. I?m guessing it?s the homologation of parts making a Toyota legal in Stock Eliminator that some folks don?t like. There must be something legal for it to happen, which apparently it?s just that?going to happen. I doubt GUMP would invest in it, if he didn?t feel it was possible. Sub 9 sec runs have become a norm, it?ll just be weird seeing a Toyota Supra at or near the top of the sheet.

Seeing a Toyota No.1 in the Stock Eliminator qualifying sheet is one thing, however seeing a Toyota (anything) in the winner's circle is something totally different! I'll tell you this, with all of the crap I've read about Toyota's, Nissan's, Subaru's, and Mitsubishi's being better vehicles than our American branded vehicles, I'm still waiting for one of them to get their FWD compacts to come out and play with my Z24, Dennis's Dodge Shadow, and Billy's Cavalier, Brent and Gary's Charger's, and Mark's Escort! Moreover, "IF" they'd survive an elimination round against any of our cars, there's still a slew of Camaros, Challengers, Mustangs, and many other RWD muscle cars, that they'd have to survive to impress me!

How about it Toyota, where's the FX16, or the Supra's? Honda, where's your CRX's, Accords, Prelude's, and Acura Integra's? Subaru, you too....where's your performance cars? Mitsubishi tried once, come back and try again? While we're at it, let's get the Hyundai's and Kia's into the mix as well? European muscle cars in Stock? How about it Volkswagen, BMW, Porsche, Audi lovers? Let's make it international! I'll put my dollars in American branded cars!!!!

I'm a little late to this dance, because I had some significant family losses these past two months, but I'm back now, and as soon as I can build back up some vacation time, I'm heading back to the track, and definitely looking forward to 2026, now that I have my parents as heavenly angels to watch me!