HP Reduction Request

[goinbroke2]

You're so right Ron, check out any v6 or inline 6 ford in the truck section. The inline 300 is at 190hp, I tried to get it lowered last year and was denied. Look at the 302 in another truck at 215, which has approved rods/pistons/etc there is no comparison.

20% would take it to 152, it was originally at 155 with a carb and no doubt will make more than that with FI, but it would be incentive to build it. I would suspect after being hit (maxed out) it would end up around 175-180. Cubic $$$ will only take it so far, I don't see it ever hitting 190 or more.

The 2bbl 302 got some new cars built, but have they "took over the world" like some on here predicted? No, it was a good "proof in concept" of the idea and it worked. More cars were built and the ones that were pushed hard were corrected...kinda exactly like a win-win right??

I really like the idea.

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by amxron

Most 6 cyl cars are rated higher than some V-8's now.
Great idea to get out diverse and older makes for sure.
Some folks leave the stands when stock is called because they
don't want to see a line of Camaros.

Goodluck w/nhra

Ron.

Before I started racing again, I started going to some national events to watch my old friend Mike Edwards run Pro Stock. I would go stay in the stands to watch some friends run Stock & Super Stock. When the fuel cars finished, the stands would empty. I asked several people leaving "Why don't you watch these?" Every time they would answer "Too slow", not one time did anybody mention a particular kind of car. Always just "Too slow". Guessing not enough noise or 300 MPH.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Before I started racing again, I started going to some national events to watch my old friend Mike Edwards run Pro Stock. I would go stay in the stands to watch some friends run Stock & Super Stock. When the fuel cars finished, the stands would empty. I asked several people leaving "Why don't you watch these?" Every time they would answer "Too slow", not one time did anybody mention a particular kind of car. Always just "Too slow". Guessing not enough noise or 300 MPH.

Ed, I was at Vegas last fall, and watched the folks file out of the stands when the Pro Stockers came out. Whole different generation of fans, I guess.
It's almost like there's two NHRAs now, and they don't seem to care much about ours.
Don't mean to go o/t here.

[Carguy49]

You are right Mark. There is whole different fan base out there. Most of the people that go to the National events are fans of the BIG CIRCUS. Look at the crowd at a Divisional event - almost no one in the stands. Last year at the Divisional at Pacific Raceways I think I counted about 100 people. I can almost guarantee that many of those, if not all, were friends of the racers.

The lower class cars don't have fan base and so us diehards can sit anywhere we want to photograph the cars or just watch from wherever we want. I am usually by the starting line, but that's just me.

If lowering the H.P. on several cars gets more built, COOL. Unfortunately most people don't understand the class cars, like Stock. Top Sportsman, Top Dragster and the Super classes is where most of the interest is now. I still love STOCK and SUPER STOCK so watching these "slow" cars is a definite thrill for me.

So good luck in any attempt to get more cars out there. It will be a win for me and the other fans of these cars.

[Ed Wright]

Maybe 25% watch Pro Stock, and that 25% won't watch us. No Pro Mod, no Top Dragster, etc. They only want to watch Top Fuel & Funny Car. And, listen to them talk. They don't know anything about those. They do know where the coldest beer vendor is.

[Don Kennedy]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Before I started racing again, I started going to some national events to watch my old friend Mike Edwards run Pro Stock. I would go stay in the stands to watch some friends run Stock & Super Stock. When the fuel cars finished, the stands would empty. I asked several people leaving "Why don't you watch these?" Every time they would answer "Too slow", not one time did anybody mention a particular kind of car. Always just "Too slow". Guessing not enough noise or 300 MPH.

In my opinion any aspect of class of cars racing can and should be promoted to create excitement . Everyone knows NHRA has done nothing to promote any interest in Stock and Super Stock ever . Alan Reiheart has been doing a great job talking about different makes of cars when he announces as well as other announcers . He does a great job announcing but NHRA corp has done nothing to make our class of cars exciting I suspect there are many ways that Stock and Super Stock can be promoted more in NHRA fans eyes but this has not happened yet . Also as the number of Pros goes down NHRA will need other exciting ways to push in the racing arena Stock and Super Stock could and should be one of the most exciting forms of racing to watch all it needs it Promotion

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

In my opinion any aspect of class of cars racing can and should be promoted to create excitement . Everyone knows NHRA has done nothing to promote any interest in Stock and Super Stock ever . Alan Reiheart has been doing a great job talking about different makes of cars when he announces as well as other announcers . He does a great job announcing but NHRA corp has done nothing to make our class of cars exciting I suspect there are many ways that Stock and Super Stock can be promoted more in NHRA fans eyes but this has not happened yet . Also as the number of Pros goes down NHRA will need other exciting ways to push in the racing arena Stock and Super Stock could and should be one of the most exciting forms of racing to watch all it needs it Promotion

Don, Start a new thread, or bring up one of your old ones, before this one gets too far off course again. Thanks.
I've got a few thoughts for later on.

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by Don Kennedy

In my opinion any aspect of class of cars racing can and should be promoted to create excitement . Everyone knows NHRA has done nothing to promote any interest in Stock and Super Stock ever . Alan Reiheart has been doing a great job talking about different makes of cars when he announces as well as other announcers . He does a great job announcing but NHRA corp has done nothing to make our class of cars exciting I suspect there are many ways that Stock and Super Stock can be promoted more in NHRA fans eyes but this has not happened yet . Also as the number of Pros goes down NHRA will need other exciting ways to push in the racing arena Stock and Super Stock could and should be one of the most exciting forms of racing to watch all it needs it Promotion

Don please g back to sleep. P.T. Barnum himself couldn't get rumps in the seats to watch sportsman racing.
The only way to salvage what's left is for the IDIOTS running the show is to slow down the fuel cars,making running a fuel team cheaper, to get more cars out there. Make the current F/S cars the new Pro Stock. Books match races (4 T/F. 4 F/C, 4 P/S) into divisionals. Leave the motorcycles and dumb *** snow mobiles and any other
non class eliminator catogories home. It's not an over night deal but something has to change.
Sorry if some out there are offended by my suggestions but the train is headed off the track, something has to change.

[Randall Klein]

I've usually heard the announcer tell fans ( just after fuelers ) to head to the pits for autographics, and I believe for tee shirt and food sales, revenue NHRA desires more than the races going on

Just follow the money

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Randall Klein

I've usually heard the announcer tell fans ( just after fuelers ) to head to the pits for autographics, and I believe for tee shirt and food sales, revenue NHRA desires more than the races going on

Just follow the money

I've heard that too. We aren't fast enough to impresse people that are just there for the noise and 300 MPH speeds. If you sit in the stands and talk to some of them, most don't really know much about cars.