Rules for staging?

[art leong]

Will someone please tell me the rules as per nhra as far as staging goes?

[Alan Roehrich]

Art,
There is a page devoted to it in the 2009 Rule Book, page 41, Section 2 Race Procedures, Staging.

[art leong]

Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

Art,
There is a page devoted to it in the 2009 Rule Book, page 41, Section 2 Race Procedures, Staging.

What I meant was. Is one car supposed to light the first light, then the second car lights his first light then the first car lights the second light and then the second car does the same.
This is the way I thought it is supposed to work.
When I have accidently turned both bulbs on and was made to back out. Is this the proceedure?

[Chuck Norton]

Yes. If you do it in eliminations you may be dq'd.

[Alan Roehrich]

Yes, both pre-stage lights must be lit before either competitor can light the stage bulb.

Once both pre-stage bulbs are lit, either competitor can stage first.

In time trials they'll make you back out, in eliminations they'll normally turn on the red light if you do not back out almost instantly.

[art leong]

What happened to me was I lit the first light. Then the guy I was running comes up and turns on both bulbs. I waited for him to back a little. (this is what they have always made me do) When I realized they were not doing anything. I lit the second bulb, tried to bump it a touch, and wound up deep, went to back and the red was on.
The method I've been working on is to get up there first, light the first bulb, then after the other car lites the first bulb. I lite the second and bump in a touch. I didn't realize one car can go up and lite both bulbs regardless of the other car.
Or am I missing something.

[art leong]

Am I confusing "courtesy staging" with the rules?

[Sean Kennedy]

Originally Posted by art leong

What happened to me was I lit the first light. Then the guy I was running comes up and turns on both bulbs. I waited for him to back a little. (this is what they have always made me do) When I realized they were not doing anything. I lit the second bulb, tried to bump it a touch, and wound up deep, went to back and the red was on.
The method I've been working on is to get up there first, light the first bulb, then after the other car lites the first bulb. I lite the second and bump in a touch. I didn't realize one car can go up and lite both bulbs regardless of the other car.
Or am I missing something.

Art,

You were probably DQ'd because of the deepstage. But while you did try to back up and fix it, that would also DQ you. The rulebook states that your last movement into the stage beams must be a FORWARD motion. I believe this is to prevent people from going across the beams and backing up to the point where they are just barely deep staged. I ASSUME, but do not know for sure, that that rule was implemented during the early years of super class racing.

[magnumv8]

I was at the first NHRA event at Norwalk when the issue of courtesy staging came to a head...and it involved the Pros not the sportsman racers.....Erica Enders in Prostock knew she had no chance to actually outrun Greg Anderson so she rushed her burnout and lit both bulbs....before Greg could even get close to actually staging like he always does he was "timed out"...the tree lit, she left and he just sat there wondering what happened....the crap hit the fan arms were flying up in the air and people were yelling like crazy (I was close enough to hear it and it wasn't nice)...

[larry dowty]

ART is correct his original question had nothing to do with the pro's and i for one did not it was legal to do what happened to art at indy in the first round. PARDON MY STUPIDITY.