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Old 11-20-2009, 09:42 PM   #1
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Mark J,
I'll post all the Charlie Castaldo on this post later tonight. 69' at Indy, nice photo. Cragars front (15" x 4"), Notice that little blocked out sliver on the upper portion of the door. Possible Tom Crutchfield's name???
Car ran 10.72 their, at Indy, in SS/BA. That is definitely Dino's lettering job. I'm wondering, what color was the Palmer Dodge car. It looks like just the center silver section was re-painted, on Charlie's car, and everything else left alone??? Is that a Cherry-Bomb muffler on that car connected to a straight exhaust pipe, or are my eyes deceiving me??
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:04 PM   #2
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Paul,
I have a bunch of pics copied and ready to send - I will stop at the post Office tomorrow morning. All the NE cars you have listed but I forgot to copy the Lendrum Dart pic before I put everything in the envelope. I think that you are right the blocked out silver area on the Castaldo 2nd Dart is where crutchfield's name was.
Jack,
I noticed on your Barracuda and Ed Miller's that you had what appears to be pexiglass over the grille areas - an early attempt at aerodynamics? I am looking for a good pic of Richard Shipley's old "Poison Dart" any suggestions?

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Old 11-20-2009, 10:18 PM   #3
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Paul,
The 68 Hemi S/S cars did have mufflers - they were kind of like glasspacks. From what I am told, in S/S, you had to have the exhaust on the car - not necessarily hooked up - that is why you see the exhaust under the cars - the racers slipped the pipes off the headers and wired them uo to the T-bar mount.
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Paul,
I have a bunch of pics copied and ready to send - I will stop at the post Office tomorrow morning. All the NE cars you have listed but I forgot to copy the Lendrum Dart pic before I put everything in the envelope. I think that you are right the blocked out silver area on the Castaldo 2nd Dart is where crutchfield's name was.
Jack,
I noticed on your Barracuda and Ed Miller's that you had what appears to be pexiglass over the grille areas - an early attempt at aerodynamics? I am looking for a good pic of Richard Shipley's old "Poison Dart" any suggestions?

Mark J
just was wondering if you could send me some of those pics of charlie lendrums dart??? and does anyone know where the car is?? thanks joel
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Old 11-22-2009, 11:50 AM   #5
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Mark J,
I'll post all the Charlie Castaldo on this post later tonight. 69' at Indy, nice photo. Cragars front (15" x 4"), Notice that little blocked out sliver on the upper portion of the door. Possible Tom Crutchfield's name???
Car ran 10.72 their, at Indy, in SS/BA. That is definitely Dino's lettering job. I'm wondering, what color was the Palmer Dodge car. It looks like just the center silver section was re-painted, on Charlie's car, and everything else left alone??? Is that a Cherry-Bomb muffler on that car connected to a straight exhaust pipe, or are my eyes deceiving me??
Paul
Hello Paul,those are factory pipes and mufflers,recently sold pair from original Hemi Dart/Gene O'Neill's car,they were in storage for many years,those pipes also appear in the book "Maximum Performance" by Jim Schild and are in the 68 section of book
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Old 11-22-2009, 01:45 PM   #6
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Mr. Flintstone,
Did you sell the mufflers for $28. The going price for them back in 68'/69'. I thought that shape was familiar. Red Cherry-Bombs from
Maremount Muffler Corp. I know they came on the cars, but wasn't aware that they were required for S/S competition in 69'. I'm sure more than a few of them flew off like "Boomerangs" half-way down the track. DQ'd.
Much like some of those manual (4-speed) shift driveshafts flying out from under the car, when launching from the line. Hello,,Connecticut
Driveshaft,,,How may we help you?....More Gene info..Check out this location on the web,Tappan Motors, Tarrytown, New York. Had a car elevator. Showroom main floor, service center lower-level. Was a hot
Plymouth dealer back in the day, right near the GM -plant. Had numerous drag race cars their, Plymouth and Dodge. Swapped many a car, back in the late 60's and 70'/71'. Check out the building,,, it may strike a nerve.
Wonder if the Plymouth dealership swapped out a hot Plymouth, to get
a Hemi Dart for one of its customers.
Paul (More to come, or should I just forward it to Slate Construction
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Old 11-22-2009, 06:50 PM   #7
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68HEMISS, you are correct again on both counts. The originar factory cars did have mufflers (small glass pack type) with a pipe connected, and I did have the grill covered with plexiglass on the car when I ran pro stock early that season.I would love to get a copy of the picture you spoke of, as I have almost no photos of any of my race cars.
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Old 11-23-2009, 07:34 AM   #8
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Jack,
If you go to the doverdragstrip.com site. Go to the 'Where are they now'
forum. Scroll down to '1968 Factory Hemi Darts and Cuda's at Dover'.
Go to page 2, about half-way down. There's your car at Dover starting
line, (circa 1970). Lane II, towe side.
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:53 PM   #9
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What's that "Grump lump" doing on a Mopar hood?



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Old 11-24-2009, 05:18 AM   #10
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Jack Arnew,,, I see you joined the Dover site. "Good for you Jack"
Mark J,,, Did Tom Crutchfield run the Hemi Dart through "Palmer Dodge" or "Button Motors". One of his cars shows his name on the door panel (ie; Hemi Dart). Charlie "L", said when Charlie Castaldo got the
car from Tom, the motor was tired. Not the same motor that won the
69' S/S Magazine Nationals. Also, looks like the Cragars on the front
of the SS/BA Dart at Indy 69' were from the wrecked SS/B Dart................
Another, in a long lost line. Whipple Motors out of Hingham, Mass
(southern Boston region) tried, but could not get a Hemi Dart. Not sure if this is true or not, but were told by the Regional Director that the allotment for the area had been met. They were guided to Mr. Norm's, but refused to deal with them (price shenanigans?).
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