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Old 10-21-2011, 08:30 AM   #1
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Adjustments on a stick setup aren't just possible, constant adjustments on a stick setup are needed.

Once you get an automatic set up right, you just check the fluid occasionally, and adjust the bands once every X number of runs..

But if HP ratings are of interest, they could be significantly different between auto and , so that might be a reason to do one or the other.

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That statement is just plain false. There is no constant adj on a stick car. Simply not true. Ask Brad Zaskowski. He's pretty damn good to. Check his stats. My 2 cents.
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Old 10-21-2011, 12:12 PM   #2
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Stick car all the way!!!! You have the choice of todays low pressure clutches, a clutchless transmission and a super stock suspension. To me that is a no brainer. Also, like everybody else has said once you get it right your pretty much done. Especially with a ss car (big tires, 4 link etc...) You don't have to try and hook a 9" tire. Also with the counterweight that you will have you can adjust your rpm 2-400 up or down to adjust for conditions as well without have to make a clutch adjustment. But like Roy said you can make a base pressure adjustment in a mater of 5-10 min and a counterweight adjustment in just a few more than that. In my opinion, the key to making a sintered iron clutch work is how you seat it in, in the first 20 passes. If you seat the clutch in properly it will be your best friend. If you don't you will be chasing your tail and you will end up hating it. I would recommend that you have someone that is running a sintered iron clutch will success help you get started with seating it in. Once you have done that it will be ear to ear smiles all the time.
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Thank you everyone, I guess I was concerned about reaction times and maintenance with a stick, I am going to Gforce next friday to order a GF5R clutchless.
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Old 10-22-2011, 01:30 AM   #4
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Thank you everyone, I guess I was concerned about reaction times and maintenance with a stick, I am going to Gforce next friday to order a GF5R clutchless.
I know a guy that recently had a clutchless G-Force (Ford) for sale. It has very few runs on it and is just back from G-Force. Complete with shifter for a whole lot less than new. PM me for details and I'll see of it's still available.
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Any clutch recommendations, Gforce suggested 10.5 soft lok from Mcleod.
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Old 10-22-2011, 04:38 PM   #6
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Any clutch recommendations, Gforce suggested 10.5 soft lok from Mcleod.
That or a Rob Youngblood setup. Jeff Lee will be here to give you his info! Pretty much the only two choices since you need to have the adjustability.
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Old 10-22-2011, 09:22 PM   #7
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Stick all the way!
The only dis advantages are the b.s. 250lb weight break the slush box cars get in Modified SS like Jim said and you will not be able to put on makeup or text while going down the track.
Get the 10.5 Mcleod soft-lok like G Force suggested, that is what we run in all three of our cars with very little maintenance. I think I made 4-5 clutch adjustments all year in my SS car making close to 100 runs. Even in Chuck D's CJ with a new McLeod clutch and a driver that had never let the clutch go in a race car we had only a couple adjustments to get the new combo set up and a couple more throughout the year.
As far as your reaction times as long as you have a mechanical clutch linkage and NOT a hydraulic clutch linkage your reaction times will be consistent. Your R/T will be a little quicker than a mod car with an auto but that can be adjusted with tires, air gap, suspension and other adjustments.
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My experience with a stick setup goes back a lot of years, so what I am hearing here now is that they dont require adjustments...And that they are easier than automatics.

Good, then maybe we will put a stick in ours too. The HP factor is more appealing too...

And yes, I do have a nice collection of converters already.

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