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Old 03-20-2012, 03:44 PM   #1
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Great photo post as usual,,,,,,,,,,,,you are the best...

More on the SC/Rambler,

Featuring a Borg-Warner T-10 close-ratio all-syncromesh transmission with;
(1st; 2.23) (2nd; 1.73) (3rd; 1.35) (4th; 1.00) ratios.

Also, a special heavy-duty clutch set-up.

Sub-frame connectors between the front and rear sub-frames.
A special steel plate riveted in the trunk, to provide for additional shock tower support.
Brackets for the sub-frame ends, that bolted to a threaded portion of
the sub-frame.

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Old 03-20-2012, 04:15 PM   #2
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Old 03-20-2012, 07:45 PM   #3
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Moose,

Great photo post as usual,,,,,,,,,,,,you are the best...

More on the SC/Rambler,

Featuring a Borg-Warner T-10 close-ratio all-syncromesh transmission with;
(1st; 2.23) (2nd; 1.64) (3rd; 1.31) (4th; 1.00) ratios.

Also, a special heavy-duty clutch set-up.

Sub-frame connectors between the front and rear sub-frames.
A special steel plate riveted in the trunk, to provide for additional shock tower support.
Brackets for the sub-frame ends, that bolted to a threaded portion of
the sub-frame.
the subframe connectors were on all 69 ramblers (americans) and i've been told that it was a mid year 68 thing

i have a 69 2dr sedan and it has the subframe connectors...

unless we're talking about 2 different things
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There it is, on the SC/Rambler Hurst specification sheet.

#3160 lbs. (10.03 Wt/Hp Factor),,,,,,,F/Stock
or
Super Stock (SS/J)

Does anybody remember if the listed weight of the car was exaggerated by AMC to get the car into F/Stock (10.00 - 10.49 Wt/Hp).

Some say E/Stock for 1969, and others say F/Stock.

The 1967 Rogue hardtop with the 343 engine weighed in at #2971 lbs. Where was the other 189 lbs.

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Old 03-21-2012, 02:32 AM   #5
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There it is, on the SC/Rambler Hurst specification sheet.

#3160 lbs. (10.03 Wt/Hp Factor),,,,,,,F/Stock

Does anybody remember if the listed weight of the car was exaggerated by AMC to get the car into F/Stock (10.00 - 10.49 Wt/Hp).

Some say E/Stock for 1969, and others say F/Stock.

The 1967 Rogue hardtop with the 343 engine weighed in at #2971 lbs. Where was the other 189 lbs.

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those subframe connectors,disc brakes,torque links, etc. all add up...


btw, i think the 343 ramblers in 67 were the reason for the connectors....
they're NOT a very stiff car without them...
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According to the classification guide, the SC/Rambler shipping weight is 3058. In comparison, the '65 Chevy II SS with a 327 is 2882 and the '66 Chevy II SS is 2917. Considering that the AMC V8 is approx 60 lbs heavier than the SBC and that AMC used a cast iron T10 to GM's aluminum Muncie, the weights seem reasonable and not "adjusted".
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dwight, were the bellhousing cast iron or aluminum?
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Aluminum
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According to the classification guide, the SC/Rambler shipping weight is 3058. In comparison, the '65 Chevy II SS with a 327 is 2882 and the '66 Chevy II SS is 2917. Considering that the AMC V8 is approx 60 lbs heavier than the SBC and that AMC used a cast iron T10 to GM's aluminum Muncie, the weights seem reasonable and not "adjusted".
Thanks Dwight,,,,,,,,

Just what I remembered, the 1969 SC/Rambler was classed in E/Stock in 1969.

AMC did exaggerate the weight on their specification brochure.
The NHRA adjusted it to #3058 lbs., which was #102 lbs. less.

Performance Results

Car Craft (April 1969)
14.30 @ 99.00 MPH

Car and Driver (May 1969)
14.70 @ 96.30 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Road Test Magazine (June 1969)
14.14 @ 100.44 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Car Life (June 1969)
14.20 @ 98.50 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears.

Speed and Supercar (1969)
13.56 @ 105.39 MPH
Note: Car equipped with 3.91 Gears, Doug Headers, Dual-point Distributor and 7" M & H Slicks.

Super Stock & Drag Illustrated (May 1969)
14.31 @ 98.86 MPH
Note: Press Test Car, with 3.54 Gears)


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Ed,

The rest of the listed items;

* Color keyed exterior side-view mirrors
* Blacked-out grille
* Black tail-light lenses
* Hood pins
* Hurst SC/Rambler emblems (front fender, trunk deck-lid, glove box)
* 16:1 Quick-ratio manual steering
* Power assisted Bendix brakes
* Front disc-brakes 11.2"

* Dealer Invoice,,,,,,, $2732.95
* MSRP,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, $2998.00
* List Price,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, $3665.00

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