Mph = Win ?

Bill Baer · 03-19-2015, 05:46 PM

Maverick
Brings up a good point, in one instance we were on a very poor racetrack and the only guy who could hit the index was the 180 MPH guy.
everyone else was sliping spinning and sliding all over the place. My first thought was that since he had more power than any of us, perhaps he had a traction control device.But then we made a pass along side of him and I saw his incremental times ,all of them to the 1/8 mile especially the 60' time were way slower than anyone else. Resultantly he didn't spin anywhere and was capable of making up the time in the last half of the track and was more consistent.

Jeff Stout · 03-19-2015, 05:57 PM

Gambling in the stands we would always say MPH wins and go with the car that had the most. A lot of times odds would have to be given because cars with more MPH usually won. Not very scientific or no spreadsheet available just good old gambling.

sst7250 · 03-23-2015, 02:04 PM

So I guess one barometer would be how many "high" MPH cars have won S/ST and S/G? I have not seen a lot in S/ST at least, maybe I am wrong.

Maverick · 03-23-2015, 05:38 PM

I am interested in what you consider hi mph in super street, and what is hi mph in super gas. Looking at the Belle Rose ets, red lights, and slow runs of 11.0 seconds, I would say a 136 mph car won SST. I myself consider that a hi mph. But I take note of any car over 140 extremely hi mph. Seen a few 150 cars, and to me that is they are the trend. The hi mph cars usually run SG, when they want to, with ease.

sst7250 · 03-24-2015, 01:57 PM

Well I would consider a S/ST car over 150 to be a "fast" car. There are more and more of those along with cars that can go 160+

Maverick · 03-30-2015, 02:49 PM

Super gas winner at 4 Wide Nationals 172 in the final

Tim Quintin/Cole s/g · 07-02-2015, 11:10 PM

I hear people all the time that think more MPH will make them win... NO.. MPH can be a advantage because they get to see the whole run if there fast because they are on the stop longer.. Our 1970 S/G Cuda is plently competitive and it runs 150-152 MPH running against guys running 170-180 MPH..

Shake & Bake · 07-11-2015, 06:33 PM

I too feel that the higher mph car has the advantage. Witnessed a S/G car go 9.90 @ 183+ at the Summit Nationals in Norwalk last weekend.

03-19-2015, 05:46 PM	#1
Bill Baer Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Nothern IL Posts: 596 Likes: 1 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Mph = Win ? Maverick Brings up a good point, in one instance we were on a very poor racetrack and the only guy who could hit the index was the 180 MPH guy. everyone else was sliping spinning and sliding all over the place. My first thought was that since he had more power than any of us, perhaps he had a traction control device.But then we made a pass along side of him and I saw his incremental times ,all of them to the 1/8 mile especially the 60' time were way slower than anyone else. Resultantly he didn't spin anywhere and was capable of making up the time in the last half of the track and was more consistent. __________________ Bill Baer 3391 SC, 339B SC, QR

03-19-2015, 05:57 PM	#2
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,489 Likes: 66 Liked 706 Times in 283 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? Gambling in the stands we would always say MPH wins and go with the car that had the most. A lot of times odds would have to be given because cars with more MPH usually won. Not very scientific or no spreadsheet available just good old gambling.

03-23-2015, 02:04 PM	#3
sst7250 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 184 Likes: 9 Liked 45 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? So I guess one barometer would be how many "high" MPH cars have won S/ST and S/G? I have not seen a lot in S/ST at least, maybe I am wrong.

03-23-2015, 05:38 PM	#4
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? I am interested in what you consider hi mph in super street, and what is hi mph in super gas. Looking at the Belle Rose ets, red lights, and slow runs of 11.0 seconds, I would say a 136 mph car won SST. I myself consider that a hi mph. But I take note of any car over 140 extremely hi mph. Seen a few 150 cars, and to me that is they are the trend. The hi mph cars usually run SG, when they want to, with ease.

03-24-2015, 01:57 PM	#5
sst7250 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 184 Likes: 9 Liked 45 Times in 32 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? Well I would consider a S/ST car over 150 to be a "fast" car. There are more and more of those along with cars that can go 160+

03-30-2015, 02:49 PM	#6
Maverick Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 299 Likes: 3 Liked 36 Times in 26 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? Super gas winner at 4 Wide Nationals 172 in the final

07-02-2015, 11:10 PM	#7
Tim Quintin/Cole s/g Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Georgia,VT Posts: 64 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? I hear people all the time that think more MPH will make them win... NO.. MPH can be a advantage because they get to see the whole run if there fast because they are on the stop longer.. Our 1970 S/G Cuda is plently competitive and it runs 150-152 MPH running against guys running 170-180 MPH.. __________________ Tim Quintin - (driver) Cole Quintin- (Crew Chief 1970 Cuda S/G NHRA DIV 1 1970 Cuda S/ST NHRA DIV 1

07-11-2015, 06:33 PM	#8
Shake & Bake Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 312 Likes: 40 Liked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Mph = Win ? I too feel that the higher mph car has the advantage. Witnessed a S/G car go 9.90 @ 183+ at the Summit Nationals in Norwalk last weekend. Last edited by Shake & Bake; 01-13-2016 at 08:45 PM.

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