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Old 03-06-2017, 05:03 PM   #1
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Old 03-07-2017, 05:03 AM   #2
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Did you come from another class Dave or did you jump right in the stock pool?
Bracket raced mostly street cars. I did not buy an existing Stocker. I am building it myself.
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Gordie, you have a PM.

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Older car bodies are being removed from use for recycling thus reducing the choices for race car combinations.
Don't you think that this statement contradicts what the bulk of your text is trying to say?
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How about we get the LT1 hp factor lowered?
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I thought 2 of the 3 racers with the trucks were existing racers? Either way no big deal. How about just giving the indexes back the .3 they removed a half a decade ago? That way everyone benefits, not just new racers or combos. I hardly even start mine anymore.
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Proposal # 1 looks good !

proposal # 2 , ummm, well, proposal # 1 looks better.

I had a discussion with a ( now new) Division director about this same subject several months back.

There are combos in the classification guide that have not been tried due to the factored h.p. being too high.

We both agreed that if NHRA made a 20% hp reduction for all OBD II cars it would allow racers to get these '96 and newer car (that are cheap on car lots right now) onto the track.

From there the AHFS will take over.

I consider my mid 80's T-Bird an ancient car now. I cannot imagine how hard it would be to find a nice condition 60's-70's car at a decent price, in decent condition and priced low enough that you can afford to cut on it and put a roll bar in it.
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Old 03-06-2017, 01:52 PM   #8
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How about we get the LT1 hp factor lowered?
Doesn't fall within the guidelines of this thread.

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I thought 2 of the 3 racers with the trucks were existing racers? Either way no big deal. How about just giving the indexes back the .3 they removed a half a decade ago? That way everyone benefits, not just new racers or combos. I hardly even start mine anymore.
Let's try to keep this thread .."on topic"
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Doesn't fall within the guidelines of this thread.



Let's try to keep this thread .."on topic"
Bless your heart.
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Proposal One: NHRA Tech Department will allow a racer to request a reduction in the power rating of any engine in the technical bulletins and classification guide, even when the engine has not been raced at an NHRA Championship Event and the racer does not even have a race car that uses the engine in the request. A form would be available on the NHRA Racer web site and the status of all requests would be publicized on a page on that site to reduce duplication of requests. If multiple requests were submitted for the same engine, the first would be the only one considered.

Basic Guidelines for the request:
1) Engine does not have a history of being raced or has not performed better than -.4 sec against the current index.
2) Has to be listed in the class guide and tech bulletins.
3) Maximum reduction 20% of current listed power rating or to the OEM listed and advertised rating, whichever is a higher rating.
4) This is a one-time deal only.* Once a reduction is granted, then the AHFS takes over.
5) Request has to be in writing and the engine clearly defined.
6) Reduction must apply across all manufacturer-models that use the engine. No one-off rating for a particular body style or model.
7) Engine cannot currently have an assigned factor in another manufacturer-model.
8) Engine has to be a unique combination based on some critical component part. For example, a Chev 327 300hp engine from a Corvette that has not been factored could not be reduced to 240 when a 327 275hp engine from a Camaro has the same specs but carries an NHRA-assigned factor.

^^ That # 1 speaks volumes.

A combo that has not gone more than 4 tenths under most certainly needs some help.

# 2 is a good idea because there are a bunch of dormant combos in the guide all ready to go...just waiting on a hp reduction.
A 20% reduction to the current factored h.p. would most certainly get new racers out to the track.

I have several friends that look thru the classification guide like myself while looking for a combo that is cheap to buy and easy to get to run the index. But most are factored too high...
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