Removal of historic monuments

[Buick6]

You would have to research the individual erected monument or statue to know why it is there. I do a lot of history and genealogy research and am often surprised how easy some things are to find information on.

Your'e overlooking an important fact. In those days, you held the state you were from in higher regard than the US Government. Your state came first. General Lee struggled with this himself. These officers resigned their US commissions (and therefore their oaths) and joined the confederate army. You may view them as a traitor. But they were heroes in their own day.

You don't have to honor anyone. Just don't tell others who to honor a hundred years after those before us found worthy. You cannot erase history.

You are still trying to view people in history by what we know or feel generations later.

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by Buick6

You would have to research the individual erected monument or statue to know why it is there. I do a lot of history and genealogy research and am often surprised how easy some things are to find information on.

Your'e overlooking an important fact. In those days, you held the state you were from in higher regard than the US Government. Your state came first. General Lee struggled with this himself. These officers resigned their US commissions (and therefore their oaths) and joined the confederate army. You may view them as a traitor. But they were heroes in their own day.

You don't have to honor anyone. Just don't tell others who to honor a hundred years after those before us found worthy. You cannot erase history.

You are still trying to view people in history by what we know or feel generations later.

its not my opinion they are traitors it is matter of fact and military law. They broke the oath of office.

This accusation of us trying to erase history, to be blunt is bull****. There are not statues through out Germany and Austria of the **** leaders and they know their history quite well. There are no statues in France of the people who were in the Vichy government and they know their history.

[Buick6]

You really shouldn't try to compare the American civil war to the atrocities of WWII. These men were not war criminals.

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by Buick6

You really shouldn't try to compare the American civil war to the atrocities of WWII. These men were not war criminals.

yes, i can, andersonville was just as bad as any horror in wwii and i did not compare the atrocities at all, I pointed out these people have not forgotten their history. And have we forgotten the war of 182? I have not seen many statues of that war around. And you give this ad hoc answer. I am sorry that logic destroys your position but its not my fault.And resigning a commission and joining a foreign government does not make you any less guilty of sedition. You are still committing treason.

[Buick6]

There are no statues of the men who ran Andersonville. It's ridiculous to think that's what this is about. Have you ever researched the prisoner of war camps in the north and how many died there? That is a bad argument.

I don't know what war of 182 is and probably have not researched it anyway.

[HandOverFist]

If you want to really get into atrocities consider what was done to the native americans (for lack of a better term).

[David Lee]

Originally Posted by HandOverFist

If you want to really get into atrocities consider what was done to the native americans (for lack of a better term).

I agree and I have not seen any statues honoring the native americans and we have not forgotten this horror

[David Lee]

I am not the one who brought up horrors during the war you did. And I have not condoned any horror that occurred. And this little dodging of a direct question only shows the weakness in your argument.