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Old 09-08-2019, 01:14 PM   #1
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LIMITED SUPPLY – (BLUEPRINTED) LATER STYLE “CHEATER” 67-73 UPPER CONTROL ARMS
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- Limited Supply - (Blueprinted) Later Style "Cheater" 67-73 Upper Control Arms quantity
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SKU: ORP-1126 Categories: 1960-1970 FALCON, 1960-1971 RANCHERO, 1960-1974 COMET, 1966-1971 FAIRLANE, 1967-1973 COUGAR, 1967-MUSTANG, 1968-1969 MUSTANG, 1968-1971 TORINO, 1970-1977 MAVERICK, 1970-MUSTANG, 1971-1973 MUSTANG, Drag Racing, Road Racing, Upper Control Arms
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This is a set of our ” Cheater ” upper arms. The term cheater refers to a trick the drag racers did to the Ford upper arms back in the day to make the shaft kit move smoother (look stock but not be stock). Anyone who has ever worked with these arms knows, they can be very stiff if they’re not put together properly. The racers will take the arms apart and spend a huge amount of time working the shaft and bushings until it worked smooth. Sometimes, they would be so smooth, you could move the shaft kit with just two fingers. We spend a lot of time on these arms and these are that smooth.

Anybody run these or the double roller upper control arms? and what do you Cleveland guys run for roller rocker arms?
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https://opentrackerracing.com/ has all the rollerized front suspension stuff and it is excellent. I have been told that it is not legal in Stock, but is in SS, but who knows for sure? I used it on a 69 Mustang for SS/GT several years ago and the guy who did the front end alignment couldn't believe how well it worked.

If your interested in 429SCJ stuff, I have a bunch of it.
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After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?
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After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?
Why not?
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George Reid's Ford Engine Parts Interchange lists all 302 heads from 68 to 78 as 1.78/1.45.

MustangTek agrees,
http://www.mustangtek.com/heads/Heads.html


Edit: So does Summit. Melling and Sealed Power stock replacement valves are these sizes up to 78.
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Old 09-19-2019, 03:39 PM   #6
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After looking at NHRA blueprints it says for 302 valves are 1.79 intake and 1.46 exhaust.... I'm sorry but this doesn't really sound right?
Don't pay any attention to anything but the blueprint spec that NHRA has. They list 2 different valve sizes for the 302 1.79 1.46 1.78 1.45. Remember you have +.005 and -.015 tolerances. If you are careful you can run the same valve in either engine. You can get a Torino to 3410 with driver. We did it.
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Don't pay any attention to anything but the blueprint spec that NHRA has. They list 2 different valve sizes for the 302 1.79 1.46 1.78 1.45. Remember you have +.005 and -.015 tolerances. If you are careful you can run the same valve in either engine. You can get a Torino to 3410 with driver. We did it.
I did not know of the tolerance rule. I cant find any 1.79 intake valves except for a 4.6 ford
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I did not know of the tolerance rule. I cant find any 1.79 intake valves except for a 4.6 ford
We bought 351w valves and cut them down. You can use 1.78 valves as 1.79,but check them and make sure they are an the big side. 1.79-.015 = 1.775 so you can use the 1.78 valve in place of the 1.79. With the 1.08 carb the .015 loss in valve size doesn't make any difference.
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I did not know of the tolerance rule. I cant find any 1.79 intake valves except for a 4.6 ford

Stock: Cylinder Heads: Page 135 or so.

"Valve-diameter tolerance:+.005-inch or -.015-inch from NHRA Specs."
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I got the Moser Engineering axles and spool during christmas and I still need to order Ring and pinion as well as installation kit and Spool bearings. I need to pull center section out but weather is getting in the way.... I am first going to order some transmission components before I order the rest of the rear end components because I dont see the weather breaking soon.(The car is outdoors) Bracket car is in the one car garage)
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