Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

[Mike Jones]

Sam Biondo in Grey Ghost and Phil Monteith in orange 69 Firebird.

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Originally Posted by Mike Jones

Sam Biondo in Grey Ghost and Phil Monteith in orange 69 Firebird.

Phil Monteith

[Mark Yacavone]

Can't complain about the price here, but I just use Post Image..It's a lot easier



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[Dodge64]

Hi, I believed the Pontiac that was named "Kathys Clown" where owned by a close friend here in Sweden (scandinavia) and raced at the dragstrips in Scandinavia!

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Originally Posted by Dodge64

Hi, I believed the Pontiac that was named "Kathys Clown" where owned by a close friend here in Sweden (scandinavia) and raced at the dragstrips in Scandinavia!

Wow ! If that's so, that was quite a trip for a car that only made short trips, of a quarter mile at a time.

But, I know that the quickest Pontiac Stocker ever built was sold & shipped overseas.

I assume that everybody reading this already knows this. But, Scott Burton's Ram Air IV 1970 Formula Firbird was the quickest Pontiac Stocker ever. Or at least it's the quickest one I ever heard of. It ran really low 10's, and is said to have dipped below 10.00, a time of 2.

Not sure what was the next quickest Pontiac Stocker ever ? I assume it might be a '69 RAIV BIrd, maybe John Schloe ?

My next guess might be a Ram Air II '68 Bird. I think maybe Leo Glasbrenner has one.

Then there are Randi Lyn Shipp's '67 Bird & Chris Stepenson's '68. They've both ran below 10.50.

LOTS of Pontiac Stockers now run high 10's. There's an assortment of '68 Birds, from Adam Strang & Todd Hoven on the East coast, to Bob Aceves on the West coast. Tim Gillespie also has one. And I could name a few more.

Then there are lots of 10 sec 455HO powered cars. Brad Burton & Scott Underhill have the first 2 that come to mind.

I would be VERY interested in the quickest pass ever made, by each of the 10 sec Pontiac Stockers now active. There may be several of 'em that can run quicker than 10.50, but just don't, in competition, so they won't get hp added to their combo, by NHRA. So, I'll never know.

It's interesting to me to compare the times the Stockers are turning today, compared to back in the '70's. Many of 'em are over 2 sec quicker. Today's Stockers are quicker the the Super Stock version the the cars were, back then. I suppose the cam & valve spring rule had a lot to do with that.

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Well, we've mentioned all the GTO's, in order, except the last one. For '74, the GTO was an X-body, and had a 350 engine.

But, as drag racers are known to do, some guys decided to see what they could get out of the '74 GTO. So, there have been a few '74's that did very well, including some record holders.

I think I've mentioned this, but the first to run a '74, that I'm aware of, was Rock Running. Think I posted a pic of his Super Sleeper '74 GTO.

Al Vanis won Indy with a Ventura II. It wasn't a real GTO. But, NHRA allows the same engine in a plain '74 Vent. So, for this discussion, there is really no difference. You can even run this engine in a 4-door Vent, or most any 2 or 4-door Lemans.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...px?ENGINE=2088

Bill Rink's '74 GTO is listed as the J/SA class winner at the 2005 US Nats.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

He qualified #21, with a 1.141 under, 11.609.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

The quickest '74 GTO Stocker, that I know of, belongs to Brad Koivisto. I'll look it up, but I think he ran some low 11's this year.

So, Rock Running's Super sleeper won class at the US Nats. Al Vanis won Stock at the US Nats, in a '74 Vent, the Duttweiler Automotive '74 GTO was class record holder for 5 years straight, from 1991 thru '95, & Bill Rink won class & was #21 qualifier, at Indy, in '05. That ain't a bad showing for the little 350 powered X-bodies.

Brad Koivisto ran a .939 under 11.211 at this July race, to qualify #6. So, I'd say the '74 Pontiac GTO was competitive in the the mid '70's, the first half of the '90's, the early 2000's, & still is, today.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

Will be lookin for more info & pics of '74 350 powered Pontiac X-body Stockers. So, anybody with info and/or pics please post that info.

[gsa612]

Danny Ashley had a fast '74 GTO in the early 90's which went to Sweden.Mike Macdonald (Q-jet perf.) also had one which was sold to Richard Desmond from Minn.I'm not sure if Brad K's black car was owned at one time by the Nelson's also from Minn.There was also a guy from Montana Chuck Salerno (sp).The car was blue and called "Git-Go" and was a top q'fier back then...gsa612

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Originally Posted by gsa612

Danny Ashley had a fast '74 GTO in the early 90's which went to Sweden.Mike Macdonald (Q-jet perf.) also had one which was sold to Richard Desmond from Minn.I'm not sure if Brad K's black car was owned at one time by the Nelson's also from Minn.There was also a guy from Montana Chuck Salerno (sp).The car was blue and called "Git-Go" and was a top q'fier back then...gsa612

Hey, that's good info ! Any pics ? Know where I might get some pics ? Any idea how to contact any of these guys.

[BRINK]

Originally Posted by gsa612

Danny Ashley had a fast '74 GTO in the early 90's which went to Sweden.Mike Macdonald (Q-jet perf.) also had one which was sold to Richard Desmond from Minn.I'm not sure if Brad K's black car was owned at one time by the Nelson's also from Minn.There was also a guy from Montana Chuck Salerno (sp).The car was blue and called "Git-Go" and was a top q'fier back then...gsa612

Brad Koivisto's '74 is the car that Dick Desmond bought from Mike McDonald. Mike and Danny Ashley were partners with Q-jet performance.

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Originally Posted by gsa612

Danny Ashley had a fast '74 GTO in the early 90's which went to Sweden.Mike Macdonald (Q-jet perf.) also had one which was sold to Richard Desmond from Minn.I'm not sure if Brad K's black car was owned at one time by the Nelson's also from Minn.There was also a guy from Montana Chuck Salerno (sp).The car was blue and called "Git-Go" and was a top q'fier back then...gsa612

Here's the Git-Go. Also found a better pic of the Greg Krause '74 GTO. Looks like he has John Force riding shotgun. Don't know if that makes his car go quicker or not.

The little 350 powered GTO's have done good, over the years. But I figure the huge hp hits have stopped others from building one. As Bill Rink said, it got so high he switched to SS. 277hp is ridiculous for that little low compression engine, IMO.