Best Pontiac Powered Stockers

gsa612 · 12-30-2019, 05:38 PM

Race on Sunday,Sunday,Sunday!.Sell on Monday...gsa612 ** That's Milt S.with John D's dad (owner of Towne Pontiac) in that image,but it will not enlarge**.

oldskool · 12-30-2019, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gsa612

Race on Sunday,Sunday,Sunday!.Sell on Monday...gsa612 ** That's Milt S.with John D's dad (owner of Towne Pontiac) in that image,but it will not enlarge**.

Yeah a LOT of Pontiac dealer support for drag racing, back in those days.

I suppose most '69's ran In either B or C class back in the old days, with round port heads, and D or E with D-port heads.

At some point the rules were changed to allow weight adjustments, so that most cars can run 3 different classes. What was the exact year the rules were changed to allow this ?

I remember seeing Towne Pontiac on a car. But, don't remember now what car it was on. Here's a slightly bigger version of the Towne C/S '68.

oldskool · 12-30-2019, 08:09 PM

OK, got some Nat record certificates to post. Let's see if it works.

Nope. They're in pdf form. But TJ is workin on 'em on her Mac desktop. So, when she gets 'em back to me in a form I can post, I'll post 'em.

By the way, all you guys who have set a record with a Pontiac powered car, please post your certificates, or send 'em to me so I can post 'em.

And it don't matter how slow the record was. It was quicker than any same class car had ever set that record, before that time.

Now, ya'll will have to help me here. I don't understand this nat record deal, where an existing record is "retired". I use to think all records stood, 'til somebody else beat those records. What is the thinking on retiring a record ?

OK, the Mulry/Aceves '74 Bird set the J/SA, K/SA, & L/SA records. The first 2 were set with the car as a Formula. But, to run L/SA, they had to add the hood, shaker, & all the T/A body pieces. So, in the pics below you can see it as a T/A, and, in the last pic, as a Formy, in an all Pontiac class final !

oldskool · 12-30-2019, 10:55 PM

Well, we're up to '70 model Birds. Scott Burton's '70 RAIV Formula Is the only '70 Stocker I can think of. It's been sold & shipped overseas now.

But, while Scott was racing it, it made some noise. It is known as the quickest Pontiac Stocker ever. It ran B/SA, and actually dipped into the 9's, in legal form, at a bracket race. Here's the round, posted on DRC.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop

He dialed a 10-flat, & here's what he turned.

72 Scott Burton
0.028 9.989 129.77

I assume that everybody here knows about this car. But, for any who don't, here's a link to a fairly detailed magazine article about it.

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hppp...tiac-firebird/

As far as I know, it was the only RAIV Stocker engine still in competition.

It would take a long time to post all of Scott's Pontiac racing accomplishments. But, I'll do some searching & try to hit some of the highlights, of what he did with just this car.

OK, the 1st time the car pops up on my radar is as #8 qualifier, at the 2010 Mile-High Nats, @ .982 under.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Also won the B/SA class.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Just as a side note, Brad Burton qualified higher, also won his class, AND won the race. But we'll talk more about Brad later.

At Indy, Scott went .869 under, which was good enuff for #58, in the 128 car field. Brad was higher & got RU.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

At Vegas, Michael Brand drove it, & ran 1.047 under, for the #8 position.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Scott drove it at Pomona & ran 1.014 under, for the #10 position. Ya'll take a look at this Q-list. There were 3 Pontiacs above Scott. That means that 4 of the top 10 were Pontiacs. How cool is that ?

Also Pontiacs in #15 & #20 positions.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop

Well, it looks like the RAIV Bird was off to a great start !

At Indy 2014, he ran a .977 under 10.273.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop

oldskool · 12-31-2019, 01:32 AM

A few more B/SA pics.

Mike Jones · 12-31-2019, 06:07 AM

I think YoKen is going to start charging you rent!

oldskool · 12-31-2019, 06:23 AM

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i think yoken is going to start charging you rent! :d

10-4 !

Bob Mulry · 12-31-2019, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldskool

OK, got some Nat record certificates to post. Let's see if it works.

Nope. They're in pdf form. But TJ is workin on 'em on her Mac desktop. So, when she gets 'em back to me in a form I can post, I'll post 'em.

By the way, all you guys who have set a record with a Pontiac powered car, please post your certificates, or send 'em to me so I can post 'em.

And it don't matter how slow the record was. It was quicker than any same class car had ever set that record, before that time.

Now, ya'll will have to help me here. I don't understand this nat record deal, where an existing record is "retired". I use to think all records stood, 'til somebody else beat those records. What is the thinking on retiring a record ?

OK, the Mulry/Aceves '74 Bird set the J/SA, K/SA, & L/SA records. The first 2 were set with the car as a Formula. But, to run L/SA, they had to add the hood, shaker & most of the T/A body pieces. So, in the pics below you can see it as a T/A, and, in the last pic, as a Formy, in an all Pontiac class final !

Just a little clarification, because you know how the Stock Police can be..

That wasn't most of the pieces to make it a Trans Am, that was ALL of the pieces to make it a Trans Am...

Thanx,
Bob

oldskool · 12-31-2019, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

Just a little clarification, because you know how the Stock Police can be..

That wasn't most of the pieces to make it a Trans Am, that was ALL of the pieces to make it a Trans Am...

Thanx,
Bob

OK, I stand corrected.

I know how picky some tech guys can be. Wesley told me I'd have to get the correct factory fan & cover up the radio hole before he'd even look at anything else. That was my introduction to NHRA tech.

I said it that way because I could not see a T/A fender vent. Maybe it's there & I just couldn't tell, in that pic. I just looked at it closer, and I can just barely make out small parts of it.

MR DERBY CITY · 12-31-2019, 09:29 PM

You have missed a few d 3 die hard Pontiac racers. Former d 3 champ Jack Treola ....as in the Treola - Hoy firebird. After he retired from racing jack sold the car to another Pontiac die hard Larry Sloan. You would have to go back many years to see Larry on a Q sheet but he was Pontiac through and through. In his younger years he was groomed at the track by Roy Dean Sr. Not sure if Larry still has the Treola-Hoy firebird....

12-30-2019, 08:09 PM	#3
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers OK, got some Nat record certificates to post. Let's see if it works. Nope. They're in pdf form. But TJ is workin on 'em on her Mac desktop. So, when she gets 'em back to me in a form I can post, I'll post 'em. By the way, all you guys who have set a record with a Pontiac powered car, please post your certificates, or send 'em to me so I can post 'em. And it don't matter how slow the record was. It was quicker than any same class car had ever set that record, before that time. Now, ya'll will have to help me here. I don't understand this nat record deal, where an existing record is "retired". I use to think all records stood, 'til somebody else beat those records. What is the thinking on retiring a record ? OK, the Mulry/Aceves '74 Bird set the J/SA, K/SA, & L/SA records. The first 2 were set with the car as a Formula. But, to run L/SA, they had to add the hood, shaker, & all the T/A body pieces. So, in the pics below you can see it as a T/A, and, in the last pic, as a Formy, in an all Pontiac class final ! Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 12-31-2019 at 07:25 PM.

12-30-2019, 10:55 PM	#4
oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Well, we're up to '70 model Birds. Scott Burton's '70 RAIV Formula Is the only '70 Stocker I can think of. It's been sold & shipped overseas now. But, while Scott was racing it, it made some noise. It is known as the quickest Pontiac Stocker ever. It ran B/SA, and actually dipped into the 9's, in legal form, at a bracket race. Here's the round, posted on DRC. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop He dialed a 10-flat, & here's what he turned. 72 Scott Burton 0.028 9.989 129.77 I assume that everybody here knows about this car. But, for any who don't, here's a link to a fairly detailed magazine article about it. https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hppp...tiac-firebird/ As far as I know, it was the only RAIV Stocker engine still in competition. It would take a long time to post all of Scott's Pontiac racing accomplishments. But, I'll do some searching & try to hit some of the highlights, of what he did with just this car. OK, the 1st time the car pops up on my radar is as #8 qualifier, at the 2010 Mile-High Nats, @ .982 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Also won the B/SA class. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Just as a side note, Brad Burton qualified higher, also won his class, AND won the race. But we'll talk more about Brad later. At Indy, Scott went .869 under, which was good enuff for #58, in the 128 car field. Brad was higher & got RU. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop At Vegas, Michael Brand drove it, & ran 1.047 under, for the #8 position. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Scott drove it at Pomona & ran 1.014 under, for the #10 position. Ya'll take a look at this Q-list. There were 3 Pontiacs above Scott. That means that 4 of the top 10 were Pontiacs. How cool is that ? Also Pontiacs in #15 & #20 positions. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop Well, it looks like the RAIV Bird was off to a great start ! At Indy 2014, he ran a .977 under 10.273. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 12-31-2019 at 07:48 PM.

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Mike Jones VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,125 Likes: 1,179 Liked 684 Times in 289 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers I think YoKen is going to start charging you rent!

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12-30-2019, 05:38 PM	#1
gsa612 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: 100th Meridian Posts: 569 Likes: 116 Liked 280 Times in 139 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers Race on Sunday,Sunday,Sunday!.Sell on Monday...gsa612 That's Milt S.with John D's dad (owner of Towne Pontiac) in that image,but it will not enlarge. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by gsa612; 12-30-2019 at 05:49 PM.

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oldskool VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: The Land of Bayous, Boudin & Crawfish Posts: 1,668 Likes: 223 Liked 747 Times in 362 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers A few more B/SA pics. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by oldskool; 07-12-2020 at 01:00 AM.

12-31-2019, 09:29 PM	#10
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,640 Likes: 1,083 Liked 7,941 Times in 1,520 Posts	Re: Best Pontiac Powered Stockers You have missed a few d 3 die hard Pontiac racers. Former d 3 champ Jack Treola ....as in the Treola - Hoy firebird. After he retired from racing jack sold the car to another Pontiac die hard Larry Sloan. You would have to go back many years to see Larry on a Q sheet but he was Pontiac through and through. In his younger years he was groomed at the track by Roy Dean Sr. Not sure if Larry still has the Treola-Hoy firebird....