Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Nmbr1GMfan · 11-24-2020, 12:24 PM

Billy, did you remove all of the engine and transmission torque management?

Doug Hoven · 11-24-2020, 06:14 PM

I saw the settings for torque management under traction control, but this car doesn't have traction control, so I didn't play with it. I am not sure where to find it but this car takes all of the timing out during shifts. It may be a part of the transmission torque management settings.

Mark Yacavone · 11-24-2020, 10:42 PM

Guys, You need to get that timing /shift deal out of there.
My S10 has that crap. I tried bracket racing it. It would swing 2 tenths!! every few runs.
I tried "fooling" the coolant and air temp. but it didn't help. :-(

Nmbr1GMfan · 11-25-2020, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doug Hoven

I saw the settings for torque management under traction control, but this car doesn't have traction control, so I didn't play with it. I am not sure where to find it but this car takes all of the timing out during shifts. It may be a part of the transmission torque management settings.

Look under the transmission settings for the trans. torque management. I'm not real familiar with the tables for that computer. Post pics of the tables here so we can see or another good resource would be the HPtuners forum. Zeroing out TM will help for sure.

Doug Hoven · 11-25-2020, 10:42 AM

I would post pictures of the graphs, but I don't have access to the software as it is currently only installed on Billy's laptop.

Nmbr1GMfan · 11-25-2020, 01:38 PM

Torque management may look something like this... and "torque reduction vs torque vs shift" zero out this table. Also make sure your hi and lo octane timing tables match.

Doug Hoven · 11-25-2020, 02:01 PM

I'll have to look into it better, but I did not see a torque reduction table for the shifts as you show here. Last week at Island I dealt with the octane tables having to match, but also had to play with the minimum spark advance table to effectively "lock out" the timing to a total of 29 degrees. This, however is all taken out during the shifts and takes a considerable amount of time to come back in.

Mark Yacavone · 11-25-2020, 04:34 PM

Does the timing go to zero momentarily, when you mat it?
Some of them have that little trick, too.

11-24-2020, 12:24 PM	#1
Nmbr1GMfan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1,197 Liked 1,954 Times in 491 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Billy, did you remove all of the engine and transmission torque management? __________________ Todd Greene

11-24-2020, 06:14 PM	#2
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 211 Likes: 189 Liked 826 Times in 163 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! I saw the settings for torque management under traction control, but this car doesn't have traction control, so I didn't play with it. I am not sure where to find it but this car takes all of the timing out during shifts. It may be a part of the transmission torque management settings.

11-24-2020, 10:42 PM	#3
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,809 Likes: 2,900 Liked 5,113 Times in 1,948 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Guys, You need to get that timing /shift deal out of there. My S10 has that crap. I tried bracket racing it. It would swing 2 tenths!! every few runs. I tried "fooling" the coolant and air temp. but it didn't help. :-( __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

11-25-2020, 10:42 AM	#5
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 211 Likes: 189 Liked 826 Times in 163 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! I would post pictures of the graphs, but I don't have access to the software as it is currently only installed on Billy's laptop.

11-25-2020, 01:38 PM	#6
Nmbr1GMfan VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,763 Likes: 1,197 Liked 1,954 Times in 491 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Torque management may look something like this... and "torque reduction vs torque vs shift" zero out this table. Also make sure your hi and lo octane timing tables match. __________________ Todd Greene

11-25-2020, 02:01 PM	#7
Doug Hoven Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Jersey Posts: 211 Likes: 189 Liked 826 Times in 163 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! I'll have to look into it better, but I did not see a torque reduction table for the shifts as you show here. Last week at Island I dealt with the octane tables having to match, but also had to play with the minimum spark advance table to effectively "lock out" the timing to a total of 29 degrees. This, however is all taken out during the shifts and takes a considerable amount of time to come back in.

11-25-2020, 04:34 PM	#8
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,809 Likes: 2,900 Liked 5,113 Times in 1,948 Posts	Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close! Does the timing go to zero momentarily, when you mat it? Some of them have that little trick, too. __________________ "We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for." Will Rogers

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